Talk:Honky Tonk Women

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I created Country Honk because much of the information on here (e.g. all of the info box) refers to the song Honky Tonk Women and not Country Honk. I have therefor rewritten HTW to reference out to Country Honk where relevent. I don't think the articles should merge - different lyrics, different personnel, different release formats, different titles..... twitter 15:34, 16 August 2006 (UTC) hmmm. it is it's own song, but merging it would keep things simple seeing as it is a version of honky tonk women. yeah merge it. just give it it's own section after the main piece for honky tonk women. Stan weller 17:37, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I foolishly performed the merge before checking this talk page; I apologize for my haste, and I have undone the merge. However, I still feel that combining the articles is justified. Country Honk is a great song, but WP: notability (songs) provides little support for variant album tracks of notable songs. Jlittlet 22:57, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK I am happy to go along with the majority view here. I would say however that I suspect that most variant album tracks are either extended versions of the same song or accoustic versions of an 'electric' track. I am struggling to think of another 'pair' of songs which are as different as Country Honk and Honky Tonk Women. However feel free to merge as you see fit. twitter 10:45, 28 September 2006 (UTC) — WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SINGLE VERSION & THE LP VERSION & WAS HONKY TONK WOMAN EVER RELEASED IN STEREO?[reply]

honky tonk women[edit]

j'ai 45t de "honky tonk women" des rolling stones, je n'arrive pas o trouver sa côte

I don't know what you're talking about. I want you to type in English. LSM1204 (talk) 17:36, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Country Honk/ HTW Timeline[edit]

There seems to be some confusion in this article about which version was recorded first. The first mention of "Country Honk" states assertively that this was the first version of the song recorded. Later in the article, however, it says that there is some dispute about this between sources. Can anyone determine the true timeline? Otherwise, could the earlier passage be made less black and white, explaining the uncertainty which was the original? Snyrt

I think that "country honk" is recorded before "honky tonk women". LSM1204 (talk) 17:37, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Amp Section[edit]

There is a lot of discussion about the amps used. Is this really important to the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.130.169.101 (talk) 07:52, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not really. It is also fraught with mistakes. The Stones used Ampeg amps onstage at Hyde Park in July 1969 and the fall US tour. Vytal (talk) 19:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Funny that you mention mistakes, as you just made one yourself. The stones used Hiwatt amps at Hyde Park. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.169.84.254 (talk) 13:54, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

quote added[edit]

I added Keith Richards quote about Mick Taylor's contribution. It would seem to me an important point b/c the guy is only 20 yrs. old in his 1st month with the band and Richards (who isn't real quick to give credit to others, you can see that w/ what he did w/ Gram Parsons) points out that Taylor changed the song some. Also, I didn't have the original magazine, Crawdaddy, and when I looked for it online, I found the website, but no way to get to the issue from 1975. Appleford in his book mentions that Richards was interviewed by this magazine, but his book does not contain endnotes. However, Appleford is a very good, well-researched source. V Schauf (talk) 03:46, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is no reason to delete the Richards quote that I have now put back in. It gives additional information about the song and Mick Taylor's contribution to it. It should stay; it's REFERENCED! V Schauf (talk) 17:11, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

so is the Mick Taylor quote that says something quite different, but ... peace, okay? don't shout Sssoul (talk) 19:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ok, sorry for shouting, but the fact that we are now showing 2 different viewpoints between Richards and Taylor makes the article more informative, interesting and nuanced. V Schauf (talk) 16:00, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

on second thought, i've just moved both quotes to the section on Honky Tonk Women, since that's the track they're actually about - i hope that makes sense. the Taylor quote was already mentioned in that section anyway, albeit with a different source mentioned. Sssoul (talk) 16:47, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Cover me[edit]

I've also heard a cover on a CD Stone Country (which I don't have a copy of...). Can somebody substatiate & include? TREKphiler ^{hit me ♠} 06:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Eliminating the "pop culture" section[edit]

in accordance with the proposal here. Sssoul (talk) 18:54, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't elimanate the pop culture sections entirely as some of them contain information that's relevant to the article. If something bothers you, discuss it in the talk page. --66.253.145.149 (talk) 07:43, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cover version[edit]

I think this is Aretha Franklin covering it, but I'm not sure. See at about 3:20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2CuUacQeKE&feature=related Anyway we should ID this version and include it. -Chumchum7 (talk) 14:14, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Its Tina Turner. -Chumchum7 (talk) 18:41, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Too many assumptions in the presentation of what a honky tonk woman is[edit]

It is wrong that the presentation is an assumption that the woman was a prostitute. She could have been a bar patron, just like the male patron who is the protagonist in the song. Or she could have been a B-girl: Bargirl#"B-girl_activity"_in_the_US --since the barroom queen was in Memphis -presumably, Tennessee, not in ancient Egypt. A change needs to be made in the interpretation of the song.Dogru144 (talk) 02:38, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fair point. Has been CN for 5 years. I will remove. Doctorhawkes (talk) 08:05, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]