Talk:Hohenlohe Regiment

Hohenlohe Regiment was a Warfare good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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June 10, 2010	Good article nominee	Not listed

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Suggestions[edit]

I have done a quick copy edit on the article (please check that you agree with my edits, if not, please feel free to revert) and notice that it is currently nominated for a GA review. I don't have the time to do the full review, but I have a couple of suggestions that I feel would help it pass this process. These are:

expand the lead to summarise the article fully;
add some more information about what the regiment did during its service in the Spanish civil war.

Sorry this isn't very much, perhaps you might consider a peer review while you wait for some one to undertake the GA review. — AustralianRupert (talk) 09:08, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No need to be sorry about anything. I appreciate feedback in any circumstance I will do as you have suggested. LeonidasSpartan (talk) 18:07, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Hohenlohe Regiment/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Magic♪piano 15:03, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Issues of breadth[edit]

My principal concerns with this article are item 3, breadth of coverage. I find that there are a number of obvious questions that the article simply does not answer:

What was the organization of the regiment? (How many battalions or other units; did it change over time?)
What was the strength of the regiment over time? (Initial/authorized size; snapshot of size during the garrison period; size during Spanish campaign; size when disbanded)
Did Hohenlohe command the regiment personally, or (as was not uncommon) did lieutenant colonels command it in day-to-day operations? Were these individuals notable enough to identify?
What was the nature of the regiment's participation in the Spanish intervention? (Was it involved in any actions? If so, what role? At a bare minimum, give broad strokes describing where its brigade went.)

Also, as AustralianRupert points out on the talk page, the lead (per WP:LEAD) does not summarize the article's body.

I can leave the review open if you feel these questions can be answered in a reasonable timeframe; otherwise I'm inclined to fail the nomination. (You might look at other Good Articles of regiments for some idea of other things that might enrich the article.) Magic♪piano 17:44, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can provide what I believe to be the answers of many of these questions, but I can not find sources which could be reliably cited, and I have searched for it extensively:

The regiment operated along the same lines as most other line infantry regiments of the time.
I have found nothing that testifies to the size of the Hohenlohe Regiment.
I am inclined to believe that while Hohenlohe may have been in command of the regiment at first, in the later years of the regiment's existence he was not in command as during the Spanish Campaign he was in command of the the French 4th corps, but again I have found no sourced I could cite.
As to the regiment's participation I believe it participated in the 4th Corps' actions, but again I found nothing that proved they were part of the 4th Corps.

I think the information needed exists, but right now I am inclined to believe that they are somewhere buried deep in the stacks of a French academic library. Perhaps you are are right that the article does not meet the GA standard, and if so I'll chalk this up as a learning experience and move on. Thank you for your time 18:01, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

As you say, at least some of this information probably does exist, if not necessarily published in English (never mind French). But my google-fu worked well: here is a French history that includes a summary of the regimental lineage that includes this one. It appears to answer a reasonable number of my questions, but it has nothing of substance on the Spanish campaign. (Older biographical entries of Hohenlohe I found say he commanded the 3rd Corps in Spain, btw.)

I'll close the nomination; good luck. Magic♪piano 12:46, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

From the french article[edit]

It seems this article only take in account the post-Napoleonic period, while the most important historical period of regiment seems to be during the french revolution & 1st republic. This is a least a big lack, at most a POV. v_atekor (talk) 07:01, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]