Talk:His Majesty's Coastguard

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Emergency numbers?[edit]

Why do they tell you at school, that fire, police and ambulance are the services to contact in an emergency, but not the coastguard, RNLI, Mountain or cave rescue? MT —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.194.74.75 (talk • contribs) 11:35, July 25, 2005 (UTC).

HM Coastguard promote the use of 999 calls for people in danger or distress at sea, on or near the coast, this information is made available in safety guides and publications.

The tasking of RNLI lifeboats is co-ordinated by HM Coastguard and therefore is not a 999 emergency service. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.6.250.109 (talk) 22:39, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

HM Coastguard are the tasking authority for the RNLI. It is a 999 service and regularly receives 999 calls for persons in distress along the coast. You can test this yourself by calling 999 and asking for the coastguard.
The reason that at school they do not teach about the Coastguard is very simple, most people do not live along the coast and therefore not aware of what to do if they get into trouble at sea as they only rarely visit the seaside. 81.145.207.27 (talk) 23:32, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

aircraft ownership?[edit]

Are the helicopters owned by the HM Coastguard, or are they wet leased? — Instantnood 09:16, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

the helos are leased from CHC if I remember correctly, they`re a canadian company that lease choppers to offshore oil rigs and such.

Daft 17;58, 30 march 2007

The current S-61s are leased from Bristow Helicopters (G-BBHL @ Stornaway, G-BBVA @ Sumburgh, G-BCLC @ Sumburgh, G-BDIJ @ Lee-on-Solent, G-BDOC @ Sumbrugh, G-BIMU @ Stornaway, G-BPWB @ Portland).MilborneOne 17:54, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

the law[edit]

Were you aware that HM Coastguard do not have a legal duty towards people seeking their help, even where they are aware that person is in danger, according to OLL Ltd v Secretary of State for Transport, 1997. The case concerned HM Coastguard's negligence regarding a group of schoolchildren who got into difficulties kayaking off the dorset coast. HMCG are reported to have taken several hours to respond to emergency calls. Anyway, I'm considering adding a small note on it if nobody objects, though this rule could easily be reversed if a similar case was appealed (this case was only High Court and so did not set precedent) HJ Mitchell (talk) 13:43, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ranks both Historic and modern[edit]

Is it worth adding a section detailing the hierachy, both Historic and modern? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.38.11.86 (talk) 09:54, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think it is. I'll have a go, if nobody else wants to. I've done similar for several other statutory and voluntary UK organisations. Will get round to it asap. Timothy Titus Talk To TT 22:19, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done - or at least started! Timothy Titus Talk To TT 12:45, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The whole Rank Structure section is totally outdated now but I don't know how to edit the table. And the 'Full Time' and 'Volunteer' headings should be changed to 'Maritime' and 'Coastal'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.109.89 (talk) 14:24, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Can you provide a link to any source giving details of the changes? We need to work from reliable sources - at present a quick search on-line only produces other sources with the same structure as currently shown in the table. I'm not doubting you, just looking for a source. Timothy Titus Talk To TT 16:34, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am concerned...[edit]

In this edit another contributor placed the link [[Emergency tow vessel#United Kingdom|UK's Emergency tow vessel fleet]].

This kind of link really concerns me. I know that traditionally we have used links to subsection headings within articles in the WP: namespace. But you will find a limited use of linking to subsection heading within article space.

If a topic is worth linking to, it is worth a standalone article. Linking to subsections within other articles defeats some of the most powerful features of our wikimedia software.

  1. Unlike the broader world-wide-web wikipedia links don't break if the name of target of the wikilink is changed. Our redirection mechanism normally silently takes care of this for us. However, linking to subsection headings breaks this. If the subsection heading is changed, even adding whitespace, punctuation, or making subtle spelling corrections breaks a link to a subsection heading.
  2. We have a powerful watchlist feature. Defeated when a standalone article is merged into another article. People who had the article that got merged on their watchlist want to see how our coverage of that topic evolved. First they will have to add the new article to their watchlist. And, once they do so only a fraction of the watchlist hits will be to changes they are actually interested in.
  3. We have a powerful "what links here" feature. Similarly to our watchlist there is no support for "what links here" when the wikilink is to a subsection heading. Someone who thinks about changing a subsection heading has no mechanism for learning if that subsection heading is the target of wikilinks.

In my opinion we should never use wikilinks that point to subsections within articles within article space. If a topic is worth linking to it is worth a separate article. Better a redlink than a link to subsection of another article. Geo Swan (talk) 06:07, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Equipment[edit]

Aircraft fixed wing - Beech 200 Super King Air operated by 2 Excel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cranbone (talk • contribs) 02:09, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Difference to the RNLI[edit]

I am a big supporter of the RNLI (financially only I admit) but don't know what the difference is between the Coastguard and RNLI. This article should make it very clear what work the Coastguard do that is different to the RNLI. People think the Coastguard is a poorly known, but paid, relative to the voluntary RNLI, and thus they are seen as virtual nobodies. If somewhere is says how they work with the RNLI it'd help their reputation as being, well, nobodies. Sirhissofloxley (talk) 23:34, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure we need to make comparisons in the article, the Coastguard is a government organisation responsible among other things for search and rescue. The RNLI is a life saving charity whose assets and people are sometimes used by the coastguard to save lifes at sea. MilborneOne (talk) 10:14, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 9 February 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 15:21, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

His Majesty's Coastguard → HM Coastguard – This page was moved to "Her Majesty's Coastguard" back in April 2006 as per WP:NCA. More recently it was changed again, for obvious reasons. However, I feel that WP:NCA does not apply here, since the acronym "HM" is dependent on the monarch's sex, and as such it might be preferable to revert to the acronymized version. In terms of commonality it seems that "HM Coastguard" is used quite often already anyway. Jay D. Easy (t) 15:05, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. The current title is the most common name. The next 2 heirs apparent are also male, so it is doubtful we will have to move this article again for many decades. Rreagan007 (talk) 02:18, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. It seems to be common practice to use the full title in government departments. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 08:35, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - Per previous opposes. And even "HM" may have to be changed in the future if someone decides their possessive pronoun doesn't start with "H", as in "Xir Majesty". BilCat (talk) 09:11, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per others. Estar8806 (talk) 03:54, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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