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Blacklisted Links Found on the Main Page[edit]

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Some proposed changes[edit]

Hello, I have located sources to support content currently on page.

Here is a source for info box content: https://fortune.com/fortune500/2019/hill-rom-holdings

Here is a source for the sentence detailing the company as a former subsidiary of Hillenbrand Industries: https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-hillrom-acquisition-0618-biz-20150617-story.html

Here is a source for the information on manufacturing facilities: https://www.cincinnati.com/story/money/2015/06/17/hill-rom-makes-acquisition-moving-chicago/28862911/

Appreciate your help. Jack at Hillrom (talk) 22:00, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That information could be entered if you followed the instructions for a proper edit request (form your request in the format "replace "x" copy at "A" location with "y" copy, appending the sources, properly formatted, to the copy you want added) , but it does not address the notability issue in any way. See WP:NCORP, WP:42, and WP:GNG for helping identifying sources that show notability. Verification is required, but notability and verification are two separate things. Notability is required for an article to exist, verifiability is required for all facts in an article. John from Idegon (talk) 20:54, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request[edit]

Will do. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack at Hillrom (talkcontribs) 23:26, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extended content

Request #1[edit]

Replace "x" copy: , furniture, other health care equipment, and medical technology systems

At "A" location: First sentence

With "y" copy: , wound therapy systems, stretchers, respiratory products, and surgical equipment.

"Can Hill-Rom Succeed Against Stryker?". fool.com. Retrieved August 2, 2019.

Jack at Hillrom (talk) 23:25, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 2-AUG-2019

Not done
The already-existing description of "other health care equipment" is adequate for describing the items offered. The article need not list specific items by name when the appropriate context is missing. Ideally, this context would describe the overall importance of each item along with reliable secondary sources. (An example would be the Apple article discussing one of its products along with a reference from an independent source which also mentions that particular product.)

 Spintendo  01:46, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your clarification. Would the following be satisfactory?

With "y" copy: , wound therapy systems designed for wound care and patients with advanced wounds [1], respiratory products such as a mobile vest which uses personal oscillating discs to provide targeted kinetic energy and HFCWO to the lungs to thin mucus and generate airflow [2], and surgical equipment including an operating table tied to robotic surgery [3].

Thank you Jack at Hillrom (talk) 03:34, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Hill-Rom launches Envella therapy bed for wound care patients". massdevice.com. Retrieved August 2, 2019.
  2. ^ "Hill-Rom launches Monarch wearable airway clearance system". massdevice.com. Retrieved August 2, 2019.
  3. ^ "Hospital supplier Hill-Rom is prospering amid healthcare's maelstrom". modernhealthcare.com. Retrieved August 2, 2019.

Reply 3-AUG-2019

Not done
The source for these references are press releases issued by the company, and would therefore not count as being "independent of the company".

 Spintendo  01:09, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Request #2[edit]

Replace "x" copy: , and a former subsidiary of Hillenbrand Industries.

At "A" location: Second sentence

With "y" copy: , and formerly part of Hillenbrand Industries, which split in 2008.

"Hill-Rom will officially call Chicago home after merger". chicagotribune.com. Retrieved August 2, 2019.

Jack at Hillrom (talk) 23:25, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 2-AUG-2019

Not done
The claim "and formerly part of Hillenbrand Industries, which split in 2008" implies that Hillebrand split with another company, but this company has not been described in the requested text. The source reference provided states that "Hill-Rom was part of Hillenbrand Industries, which split the medical equipment division from a casket business in 2008."[1] The requested prose should include this information.

 Spintendo  01:46, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Sachdev, Ameet (June 17, 2015). "Hill-Rom will officially call Chicago home after merger". chicagotribune.com.

Thank you for your helpful suggestion. Is this more clearly stated?

With "y" copy: , and formerly part of Hillenbrand Industries, which split the medical equipment division from its casket business in 2008.

"Hill-Rom will officially call Chicago home after merger". chicagotribune.com. Retrieved August 2, 2019.

Thank you Jack at Hillrom (talk) 03:38, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 3-AUG-2019

✅ Done

 Spintendo  01:09, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Request #3[edit]

Replace "x" copy: their primary offices and manufacturing facilities in Acton, MA, Batesville, IN, Cary, NC, Chicago, Illinois, Skaneateles Falls, NY, Montpellier, France, Pluvigner (France), Monterrey, Mexico."

At "A" location: third sentence

With "y" copy: their headquarters in Chicago, Illinois and U.S. factories in: Acton, Massachusetts; Caledonia, Michigan; Charleston, South Carolina; and Las Piedras, Puerto Rico. It also has plants in Germany, France, China, Mexico, Singapore, Sweden and the United Kingdom.

"Hill-Rom makes $2.1B acquisition, moving to Chicago". cincinnati.com. Retrieved August 2, 2019.

Jack at Hillrom (talk) 23:25, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 2-AUG-2019

Not done
The article ought not become a directory of plant locations, per WP:NOTADIRECTORY.

 Spintendo  01:46, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

OK. Thank you. Would it be acceptable like this?

With "y" copy: their headquarters in Chicago, Illinois and factories in the United States, Germany, France, China, Mexico, Singapore, Sweden and the United Kingdom.

Thank you Jack at Hillrom (talk) 03:41, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 2-AUG-2019

Not done
The requested claims are not referenced.

 Spintendo  01:09, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Request #4[edit]

Below are links to multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject.

Inclusion in the Fortune 1000: https://fortune.com/fortune500/2019/hill-rom-holdings

Significant coverage in Forbes article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnnosta/2018/12/09/how-technology-is-saving-lives-by-reinventing-the-hospital-bed/#36c376538988

Significant coverage in Chicago Tribune article detailing relocation of headquarters: https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-hillrom-acquisition-0618-biz-20150617-story.html

Significant coverage in Wall Street Journal: https://www.wsj.com/articles/hospital-beds-get-digital-upgrade-1544371200

Jack at Hillrom (talk) 23:35, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 2-AUG-2019

 Directions for placement required
The suggested references need to be placed within the text of the article at specific locations where claims are made. These claims ought to be verified by these references, which are placed at the conclusion of the sentence as a ref tag. The current request does not state where these references are to be placed.

 Spintendo  01:46, 3 August 2019 (UTC)


Thank you for the help.

The fortune 1000 link can serve as a reference for the information contained in the infobox: industry, CEO, revenue, employees.[1]

The Wall Street Journal article can serve as reference to a revision in the first sentence: "hospital beds" to "hospital beds that monitor patients’ heart and respiratory rates" [2]

The Chicago Tribune article can serve as reference to the headquarters information in the third sentence: their headquarters in Chicago, Illinois [3]


Thank you again. Jack at Hillrom (talk) 04:11, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Hill-Rom Holdings". fortune.com. Retrieved August 2, 2019.
  2. ^ "Hospital Beds Get Digital Upgrade". wsj.com. Retrieved August 2, 2019.
  3. ^ "Hill-Rom will officially call Chicago home after merger". chicagotribune.com. Retrieved August 2, 2019.

Reply 2-AUG-2019

✅ Done

 Spintendo  01:09, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Some proposed changes[edit]


Following Spintendo's suggestion. The below adds a citation to the comments in request#3 above, but is added as a new section. Appreciate it.


Replace "x" copy: "Their headquarters are in Chicago."

At "A" location: third sentence

With "y" copy: "The company has their headquarters in Chicago, Illinois and U.S. factories in: Acton, Massachusetts; Caledonia, Michigan; Charleston, South Carolina; and Las Piedras, Puerto Rico. It also has plants in Germany, France, China, Mexico, Singapore, Sweden and the United Kingdom."

"Hill-Rom makes $2.1B acquisition, moving to Chicago". cincinnati.com. Retrieved August 2, 2019.


Thank you, Jack at Hillrom (talk) 13:05, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

check Partially implemented  Spintendo  22:57, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hill-Rom Holdings[edit]

Would it make sense to make this article not just about Hill-Rom (the subsidiary), but rather about Hill-Rom Holdings (the parent)? Noticed that 2 of the existing references listed are already for Hill-Rom Holdings rather than Hill-Rom. If not, then Hill-Rom Holdings should probably have its own dedicated page, but not sure how much the 2 entities differ legally and operationally. - Indefensible (talk) 06:17, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Addressing Notability Flag[edit]

Since flag was placed, several WP:N sources have been added to the page. Hillrom meets WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG. Notability flag should be removed at this point. Alummocha (talk) 14:25, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

History needs updating[edit]

The history sections needs to be updated by someone who has the required info. Current history is dated and not really relevant. :) 2605:8D80:668:85A1:D590:F7C4:5BDC:4B1F (talk) 21:49, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]