Talk:Here I Stand (Usher album)/GA1
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Reviewer: Rp0211 (talk2me) 18:39, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
- Is it well written?
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
- C. It contains no original research:
- D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- Is it neutral?
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- Is it stable?
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- Overall:
- Pass or Fail:
- Pass or Fail:
- Infobox
- I could not find a reference that supported recording being done in 2008 throughout article Done
- No reference in article supporting hip hop as a genre on the album Done
- Removed genres apart from R&B, as that is the main genre. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:39, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- Lead
- "Usher divorced from Foster in 2009." - Not sure if necessary in lead Done
- I don't see why not as the lead should summarise the article's main info. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:39, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- Background
- "Shortly before the album's release..." - Add comma at end Done
- "In December 2005..." - Add comma at end Done
- "In May 2007, Usher split with Patton as his manager." - Needs reference Done
- "...Usher dismissed these claims on Total Request Live (TRL) in May 2008." - Needs reference Done
- "Usher's father, Usher Raymond III, died in January 2008." - Needs reference Done
- "In March 2007..." - Add comma at end Done
- "...although neither was included on the album." - Change "was" to "were" Done
- Composition
- "...between two consenting adults" - Sentence should end there Done
- It seems confusing to read at times with many different elements in the section Done
- I don't understand. Can you clarify what you mean? Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:39, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- Release and promotion
- All release dates should stay in "Release history" section Done
- The prose should at least touch on the release time. Omitting this info would be like removing chart peaks since there is a table of them. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:39, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- "...at Radio 1's Big Weekend, 2008..." - Make it "in 2008" Done
- "...and on May 30, 2008 he performed on Good Morning America." - Should be standalone sentence Done
- "In June he performed the single..." - Specify year; specify what single he performed Done
- "Usher sang "Love in This Club" with Young Jeezy at reality television show The Hills'third season finale on May 12..." - Change "at" to "on"; space between "Hills'" and "third"; specify year Done
- Done. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:39, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- "...and again, by himself, at the finale of the sixth season of Dancing with the Stars on May 20..." - Should be standalone sentence; specify year Done
- That creates two awkward stop-and-start sentences. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:39, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- "...and at the opening of the 2008 BET Awards on June 23, 2008." - Should be standalone sentence Done
- That creates two/three awkward stop-and-start sentences. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:39, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- "Usher performed "Love in This Club" and "This Ain't Sex" on..." - Start sentence with something besides Usher to avoid repetition Done
- "Usher performed a one-off showcase concert for 1,500 fans at indigO2, London on May 22, 2008. Tickets were allocated by ballot." - Combine sentences Done
- "On September 4, 2008..." - Add comma at end Done
Singles
- "It featured on multiple singles..." - "It appeared on..." Done
- "...and was certified gold by the Recording Industry Association of New Zealand." - Specify certification date Done
- "...it impacted radio on August 18." - Specify year Done
- "...and reached number forty-five on the Hot 100 and number four on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs." - Make standalone sentence Done
Tour
- "...coining the trip One Night Stand: Ladies Only Tour." - Needs reference Done
- It is referenced... Not every single sentence needs to end with a citation. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:39, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- "...the tour commenced on November 2, 2008 and concluded twenty-three days later." - Specify what date it concluded Done
- "The tour's female-focussed concept..." - Fix spelling Done
- Oops, I need to rememeber to check for American and British spelling differences. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:39, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Setlist
- Because this is not a tour article, I would put the setlist in a readable prose Done
- Try to expand this section more Done
Dates and venues
- Need references Done
Reception
- No issues Done
- Reception
- "He called Here I Stand"as good - if not better" than Confessions." - Space between "Stand" and "as" Done
- "...sold an unweighted 267,000." - Specify number with "units" Done
- "In mainland Europe..." - Add comma at end Done
- "...and received a platinum award from the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI)." - Make standalone sentence Done
- Aftermath
- "...Here I Stand had sold two million copies worldwide compared to Confessions' nineteen million copies..." - Needs citation Done
- "...and deflected comments that was responsible for the lower album sales." - Change "was" to "were" Done
- Try and find another name for the section to fit it better Done
- Yes, I had thought about that, but couldn't find a better one. I pondered "Impact", although the marriage break-up isn't really a result of the album. DO you have any suggestions? Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:39, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- Track listing
- Add references Done
- Why? Most tracklistings do not have references because they are found in various sources discussing the album. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:39, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- Amazon.com Bonus and US iTunes Store Bonus start tracks at number 21 Done
- Fixed the Amazon.com one, but the iTunes one is correct as the worldwide deluxe edition tracks are also included. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:39, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- Personnel
- No issues Done
- Charts
- No issues Done
- Release history
- Include "Format" and "Label" columns; you can also add "Edition(s)" album if necessary Done
- I don't believe it is possible to track down the various formats in every country and verify them with reliable sources. The label is noted in the "Release and promotion" prose section. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:39, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- References
- Reference 2 - Publisher needs to be wiki-linked Done
- Reference 4 - Publisher needs to be wiki-linked Done
- Reference 13 - Publisher is MTV Networks Done
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- It says at the bottom of the website that the copyrights go to MTV Networks. - Rp0211 (talk2me) 07:13, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- Reference 29 - Work and publisher need to be wiki-linked Done
- References 9, 17, 42, 64, 100, 101, 102, 105, 126, 127 - Publisher needs to Prometheus Global Media Done
- Until December 2009 Billboard was published by Nielsen Business Media
- Number one information should be in "Charts" section Done
- Ew. No. Per WP:FOOTER navigational boxes should be at the bottom of the article. I fix any articles that contain a separate section for them, and encourage you to do the same. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:39, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- OVERALL REVIEW
After reviewing this article thoroughly, I have decided to put the article on hold at this time. There are numerous issues that are affecting this article from reaching GA status. Here are the main issues:
- Prose quality: The prose of this article needs some work. As you can see, there are numerous grammar and punctuation issues among others.
- References to sources: There are a lot of spots where specific facts aren't supported by cited references.
Other issues have been listed above. I will give you the general seven days to fix these mistakes and/or debate the ones you believe do not affect good article status. - Rp0211 (talk2me) 23:58, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review. I believe I have addressed all the issues you have raised. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:39, 15 July 2011 (UTC)