Talk:Help Wanted (SpongeBob SquarePants)

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Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: pages not moved Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{WrestleMania XXVIII} _{The Undertaker 20–0} 06:16, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

– The first episode of a worldwide phenomenon, versus four other titles of the same name (one of which doesn't even have an article any more), which, even when put together, are nowhere near as notable as this.

Wiki traffic views in June 2012

"Help Wanted" (SpongeBob SquarePants) - viewed 8,873 times
Help Wanted (album) - viewed 37 times
Help Wanted (The Chi-Lites album) - viewed 96 times
Help Wanted (video game) - viewed 144 times
"Help Wanted" (Gilmore Girls) - viewed 248 times
Help Wanted - viewed 143 times

Overwhelmingly clear difference. Unreal7 (talk) 02:01, 10 July 2012 (UTC) Unreal7 (talk) 14:52, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment can you please use the proper format for requested moves, so that they are listed properly? -- 70.49.127.65 (talk) 02:41, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose; at risk of sounding like Noetica, how does this help the reader? As popular as SpongeBob is, how many people could even name the first episode? Episode titles (in general, not just for SpongeBob) are not well known (with a few notable exceptions, like "The Contest" and "The City on the Edge of Forever"), and so they do not make good primary topics (even if raw pageviews would otherwise support it). Powers ^T 17:34, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Millions of people know what the episode is called. Because SpongeBob has millions of fans worldwide. I seriously doubt anyone knows as much about any of the other articles. Unreal7 (talk) 16:27, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per PowersT -- 76.65.131.160 (talk) 03:39, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Keep Help Wanted as a dab page - page views on Wikipedia alone are not enough to close the deal, at least for me. There would have to be overwhelming evidence that in the real world, people associate "Help Wanted" with an episode of SpongeBob. Note: I may be biased, because I don't know who or what SpongeBob is. First Light (talk) 05:27, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. PowersT expresses it better than I could. -- chris_j_wood (talk) 12:47, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

For one thing it's the best sourced of all the articles. And SpongeBob is 50 times as famous as any of the other four things. Anyone who disagrees has no idea what they're talking about. Unreal7 (talk) 16:27, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment My name is not "PowersT". The "T" is for "Talk". Powers ^T 15:56, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Sportsguy17 (talk · contribs) 02:44, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I will be reviewing this article. I look forward to it and feel free to leave me a message about anything. Best, Sportsguy17 (talk • contribs • sign) 02:44, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Going over some basics: here is the Checklinks Report, and the Reflinks report. I will be posting a section-by-section analysis shortly. Sportsguy17 (talk • contribs • sign) 00:24, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As I begin the section-by-section, I am going to advise you that a snowstorm (known as Nor'easters) is hitting Boston tonight throughout tomorrow and if I lose power, I will be unable to respond for a while. For time purposes, I am only going to mention sections that need improvement, especially regarding sources. If free will beats fate, then I'll check for mechanics (spelling & grammar) later once reference improvements are made.

That's just OK. I hope you'll be OK too. :) Mediran (t • c) 03:59, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent job. I spent most of my morning shoveling snow off my driveway and walkway, albeit I still have power and so does everyone, so this is good

. Anyway, good job. I verified the Plot summary references and no others need to be added. I will be checking all references and checking for spelling and grammar. This looks good so far. Sportsguy17 (talk • contribs • sign) 21:16, 15 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Section-by-section Analysis[edit]

Lead

The lead is looking pretty good overall. The first few sentences of the third paragraph need to be copy edited: For example, change it to The episode was written by Hillenburg, Derek Drymon, and Tim Hill and the animation director was Alan Smart. Otherwise, it seems to follow MOS:LEAD quite well.

Done. Mediran (t • c) 03:59, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Plot summary

Although this section is about the plot, it could add sources in more details. If the given sources already support the details, use <ref name="..."/> for the duplicates and the original should be <ref name="...">(content of source)</ref> (without the tags of course )

Well, there is currently a source from the DVD. Is that OK or should I have to add more source/s? But I don't think there are other sources more reliable than what is presently written there. Mediran (t • c) 03:59, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Read-through

This section is well-sourced, but is very short. Either combine it or expand it, since while its not necessarily a requirement per WP:WIAGA, it can be somewhat awkward to read a short section.

I have merged it to the "Release" section. Mediran (t • c) 03:59, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is what I have for now. Lets start here. The article is looking well so far. Sportsguy17 (talk • contribs • sign) 01:39, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I'm looking forward to what this is going to be. Thanks again. :) Mediran (t • c) 03:59, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Final review[edit]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it reasonably well written?
A. Prose quality, no copyvios, spelling and grammar:

B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. Has an appropriate reference section:

B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:

C. No original research:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects:

B. Focused:
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias:
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc:
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

Pass! Sportsguy17 (talk • contribs • sign) 00:27, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much Sportsguy17! :) Mediran (t • c) 04:11, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Help Wanted (SpongeBob SquarePants)/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

4 images, 48, citations. I don't think it passes WP:EPISODE. JJ98 (Talk) 03:28, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 03:28, 7 November 2014 (UTC). Substituted at 17:37, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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Why was the Help Wanted title card picture deleted?[edit]

Why was the Help Wanted title card picture deleted? That's all I need to know. 107.146.244.150 (talk) 04:05, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Two reasons: 1) it was a copyright violation, which we cannot host on Wikipedia for legal reasons, and 2) the deletion discussion for the image was uncontested. SkyWarrior 04:10, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah that is true and I originally had it on my Draft:Schooled! article, until it was deleted on April 30, 2021. And the picture stayed in Wikipedia for many many years. 107.146.244.150 (talk) 04:12, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]