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Quotes?[edit]

Shouldn't these be included in any discussion about Helen Mar Kimball???

"Having a great desire to be connected with the Prophet, Joseph, he (my father) offered me to him; this I afterwards learned from the Prophet's own mouth. My father had but one Ewe Lamb, but willingly laid her upon the altar: how cruel this seemed to my mother whose heartstrings were already stretched until they were ready to snap asunder, for she had already taken Sarah Noon to wife and she thought she had made sufficient sacrifice but the Lord required more."

"[my father] left me to reflect upon it for the next twenty four hours. ... I was skeptical - one minute believed, then doubted. I thought of the love and tenderness that he felt for his only daughter, and I knew that he would not cast me off, and this was the only convincing proof That I had of its being right."

"After which he said to me, 'if you take this step, it will ensure your eternal salvation and exaltation and that of your father's household and all of your kindred.' This promise was so great that I willingly gave myself to purchase so glorious a reward."

"None but God and his angels could see my mother's bleeding heart - when Joseph asked her if she was willing, she replied 'If Helen is willing I have nothing more to say."

"She had witnessed the sufferings of others, who were older and who better understood the step they were taking, and to see her child, who had yet seen her fifteenth summer, following the same thorny path, in her mind she saw the misery which was as sure to come as the sun was to rise and set; but it was hidden from me." - <ref>Helen Mar Whitney Journal, Helen Mar Autobiography, Womans Exponent, 1880 and recently reprinted in A Woman's view</ref>

"I would never have been sealed to Joseph had I known it was anything more than ceremony. I was young, and they deceived me, by saying the salvation of our whole family depended on it." - <ref>"Mormon Polygamy: A History" by LDS member Richard S. Van Wagoner, p. 53.</ref> -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr.wippysnappy (talk • contribs) 22:31, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please see wp:QUOTEFARM. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 18:27, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Smith[edit]

I’m a distant relative of President Joseph Smith of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and there is no evidence of him being married to no one under the age of 18. The only one that is in my family tree is Emma. Please check your sources and make sure they are true and correct before putting any information on the internet. It hurts to see so many people make things up about Joseph, i.e. being married to multiple women. Well those women got themselves sealed to him after his death. So legally not married according to my family history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.245.50 (talk) 00:00, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Published reliable sources are preferred over family histories. —C.Fred (talk) 00:04, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]