Talk:Heirloom tomato

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Arkansas Traveler[edit]

Are their two varieties, Arkansas Traveler (heirloom), and Traveler (developed at U. of Arkansas in 1970)? Arkansas Traveler is included on the list at the heirloom article. Ghosts&empties 14:58, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Style[edit]

The section on varieties is probably redundant to the page for heirloom tomato varieties. I just cleaned it up for grammar and factual inaccuracies, but it might benefit from being merged with the varieties page, and possibly with the content on individual varieties being added to stub pages for those varieties. Kamileon 18:43, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"many folks agree" doesn't quite fit with the encyclopedia's style either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.193.114.251 (talk) 02:50, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Brandywine[edit]

Is the section entitled "brandywine" lifted from [1], or is it the other way around? --jpgordon^{::==( o )} 18:26, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Information source[edit]

I'm not sure that this August 2009 Washington Post article is a useful source, but it does mention this, which almost definitely should be mined for useful information for the article:

In a 2007 article in the journal Sociologia Ruralis, Jennifer Jordan examined the pressing question of why a growing number of consumers had acquired a taste for $7-a-pound "bug-eaten, calloused, mottled and splitting tomatoes that may or may not taste good." The answer, Jordan concluded, was that heirloom tomatoes had evolved into a "marker of distinction."

-- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:22, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Soviet tomato varieties[edit]

I'm removing this from the article since it is unreferenced. Feel free to add it back with a source.

A number of Soviet tomato varieties have been incorrectly referred to as heirlooms in North America.^{[citation needed]} When U.S. and Canadian seed collectors travelled to the USSR (now CIS) during the 1980s and 1990's, some of them originally thought that the tomato strains they collected were heirlooms, developed and preserved by the common people over many decades or centuries. It has since been learned that most of these varieties were actually developed by USSR plant breeding laboratories after the Second World War, and are not true heirlooms.

Gobonobo ^T ^C 14:06, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Poison pill??[edit]

The section about the heirloom varieties being genetically pure and hybrid having one side as a poison pill is a muddled mismash--certainly not a neutral POV or even factually accurate. I've cleaned it up a bit and put in relevant cross-references. Pstemari (talk) 09:07, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

US POV[edit]

The article has a rather American focus at present. This isn't a major problem and I'm not going to add a globalize template, but the article would be improved with more info on heirloom tomatoes from outside the US. --Ef80 (talk) 12:59, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The focus is not "rather American" it is entirely American. Heirloom tomato is the American usage, heritage tomato is the international term - not limited to the UK.203.80.61.102 (talk) 19:09, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Scientific American article[edit]

So, recently this article was in the lead, with a reference on how heirloom tomatoes are "inbred". The article primarily focuses on how people prefer heirlooms because breeding of "conventional" tomatoes has left them to miss out on a lot of qualities that heirloom tomatoes retain. The article concludes with a scientist hoping to "improve" on the tomato for commercial purposes (at Monsanto). As written, it was misleading and it was therefore removed. That said, I don't see much of a point for it to be in the article at all, as it seems to be a problematic piece in general. :bloodofox: (talk) 22:48, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Flavo(u)r instead of taste?[edit]

Isn’t taste the wrong term? 2A02:1810:1D20:CA00:28B5:1EFE:CC24:7490 (talk) 12:48, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]