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Hamas as terrorist group[edit]

I would point out that Hamas is more than a Palestinian militant group, it has been classified as a terrorist group by and in, among other groups and places, the European Union, the United States, Egypt, and in Asia. Quis separabit? 17:31, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia still can't state it as a fact that Hamas is a "terrorist group". Look for example how it's described in that article (Hamas). So "Palestinian militant group" and similiar is best. It is otherwise not WP:NPOV. --IRISZOOM (talk) 17:39, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rms125a@hotmail.com, you can't leave the discussion but then still insist on reverting. I've let the POV language been there for two days though it shouldn't be there to see if you would reply again but you did not while editing other pages and this is true for right now too. There is already a consensus about being careful about groups and people as WP:TERRORIST. As I've said, look at at how Hamas or you can look at pages such as Hizbollah. Your edit commentary is weird: "too bad, you do not decide; seek talk page consensus". What's that? It is you who are insisting to label them and such and you should seek consensus. Why not starting to label them in the main article as a "terrorist group" if you know this is true and acceptable to state? I think this is a NPOV violation and will go forward with it as such also. --IRISZOOM (talk) 19:41, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Let's be frank here; Hamas is a terrorist organization. But we as an encyclopedia project do not state "X is a terrorist group" in Wikipedia's own voice, we describe what Hamas is and following that, if appropriate to this article, can note what states and organizations classify them as a terrorist organization. Tarc (talk) 19:51, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's how we should describe them. --IRISZOOM (talk) 20:14, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Context and goal of the bombing[edit]

There have been repeated attempts to delete/revert important info about the bombing. Simply providing this information on the page dedicated to describing this event is hardly 'POV pushing" as the reverters say. It is a neutral, objective fact that Hamas's stated goal in carrying out this attack was reprisal for the mass civilian casualties resulting from the attack on a Gaza apt buidling the previous week. This makes the attack, in addition to being "mass murder" and "terrorism" (which it was), also "reprisal", "dissuasion" and "retributive collective punishment" (which is a war crime, so I'm not sure why the reverters don't like that characterization). None of this has anything to do with a subjective "POV". These are facts regardless of anyone's opinions about whether either of the attacks were justified or not.Greek1979 (talk) 16:00, 19 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The article already says "Hamas claimed the attack was revenge for the Israeli targeted killing of the organization's military chief, Salah Shehadeh." so I don't understand why you restored a clear POV-pushing edit.--Kerhak (talk) 17:27, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There is zero POV in the edit: all it says is what Hamas was claiming revenge for (which was not the killing of the military chief, but the killing of the civilians, as the statement makes clear). To leave it out is POV-pushing since it makes it seem like the event happened in a vacuum. Greek1979 (talk) 14:13, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Dinner at the Center of the Earth[edit]

I'd do it myself, but I don't have enough Edits to qualify. Someone please add a link in See Also to Nathan Englander. His newest novel Dinner at the Center of the Earth has the Hebrew University Bombing as a central plot point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manassehkatz (talk • contribs) 16:36, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]