Talk:Head (film)

Drugs

Every Monkees biography I've read or seen does not mention LSD use during the Ojai weekend, but several of them mention copious marijuana use at the time. (Micky Dolenz does mention in his aubiography consuming a capsule of "compressed rye-bread mold" at the Monterey Pop Festival.) Zephyrad 08:12, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Yep. The Monkees have only ever admitted to smoking "dope" / marijuana. Every published account I've read, of the Ojai Weekend , only ever mentions pot or booze , nothing stronger. ( And riding around in golf carts. ) Nice mythos. Harvey J Satan (talk) 18:21, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Actually, in his autobio, Mickey mentions taking acid several times, including once in the company of Harry Nilsson, Brian Wilson, and I-can't-remember-what-other-musician. Vonbontee (talk) 22:59, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Reversed credits

In the list of credits, specifically the 'reversed credits', Jim Hanley (Yelnah Mij) is credited as playing the role of Sidorf (Frodis). One of the last episodes of the Monkees TV show is entitled The Frodis Caper. Does anybody know what the significance of the name Frodis to the Monkees? Wwdgehead 12:50, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually "Frodis" is the only word in the reversed credits that is not reversed! Some people - none of them Mickey Dolenz whom wrote the episode - claim it's Monkees-slang for marijuana. In the episode in question , when the one-eyed alien-plant known as "The Frodis",emits a cloud of smoke , those within it's reach do seem to be stoned. ( And when staring into it's eye on a television screen , victims fall into a trance like state. ).In an earlier episode - broadcast wise - where the Monkees are forming a biker gang , there is a chalkboard with the word "Frodis" on it , with no explantion.

It could just be a silly word Mickey came up with,and tossed it into things for a laugh. Harvey J Satan (talk) 18:30, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Funding

I saw an interview with Jack Nicholson some years ago (probably in a documentary about the Monkees) in which he stated that despite the failure of the movie, it earned him and his co-producers enough money to shoot Easy Rider. If someone could find a source for this, it would be useful info to add to the article. — Loadmaster 04:57, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

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Opening credits

"There is a slight possibility that the opening credits were included in the DVD version of this feature."

This doesn't make sense to me. It seems to be unsure of whether any opening credits appear on the DVD. Is that it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.106.209.61 (talk) 17:30, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I own the DVD and it does not contain any opening credits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LennyPhillips (talk • contribs) 20:04, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

References

"Arguably a major reason for the film's flop is that many theaters demanded, and got, a change in rating from a G to a Mature rating due to the psychedelic nature of the film (with posters that say it was for mature audiences only) even though there was no nudity, no foul language, and very little violence (most notably the Nguyen footage)."

HEAD was never officially re-rated M (for Mature Audiences) by the Motion Picture Association of America, so this reference appears to be fanciful and untrue. All ad copy and prints (as well as US posters and US VHS and DVD releases) all carry the G rating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LennyPhillips (talk • contribs) 20:09, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Plus, the assertion is ridiculous on its face. No theater would demand a more restrictive rating because it would reduce their audience. In fact, I remember that Roth's Montgomery theater in Gaithersburg, MD refused to show Easy Rider because it had an R rating. The projectionist was a friend of mine. He said the official reason was "R movies are not up to Roth's family-centered standards", but that the real reason was that kids can't go to R movies so they lose money showing them.

HelviticaBold 19:14, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Easy Rider and Head

There is no direct connection to Head and Easy Rider in terms of plot or story. Peter Fonda has been quoted extensively, that he came up with the idea for Easy Rider in 1967, while doing a promotional tour for the movie The Trip. He was in his hotel room in Toronto, and came up with the concept there. Someone keeps putting a paragraph in that Nichalson came up with the idea of sending the Monkees on a motorcycle trip across America, a la Easy Rider. Then it claims that it was picked up for use in Easy Rider. Untrue. The first film shoot for Easy Rider was during Mardi Gras 1968, about a few months before Head began production. As well, Nicholson had nothing to do with the screenplay for Easy Rider. So please don't continue to add that it inspired the Easy Rider, it didn't.Abebenjoe (talk) 19:07, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Part of the confusion comes from Bob Rafaelson & Jack Nicholson interviews. I've read interviews, a long time ago , where they've both said money from "Head" helped fund "Easy Rider". This could be mis-rememberances , re-visionist history , or the fact they worked on a couple of projects together and just don't remember what money went where.

But there is another connection between the two films , originally they were going to have The Monkees make the soundtrack for "Easy Rider" ,but went with The Byrds instead. This in itself seems to be an ongoing situation. If you watch the episode of The Monkees featuring Frank Zappa , both Frank & Mike Nesmith talk about quitting their respective bands and joining The Byrds. ( Note the look of caught-off-gaurd by Nesmith , as Zappa zings him! ) Harvey J Satan (talk) 18:41, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Audio reused

I don't know which came first, but the "ching-ching-ching" of a pile driver was either used in head and Nicholson used it in easy rider, or he used it in easy rider and took it to head. But it's identical, and was probably the same audio tape clip.

HelviticaBold 19:04, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Original Research in Plot

The Plot section includes several statements that are not explicitly made in the film (e.g., what the Monkees "discover" about themselves throughout the movie). Even if we have a reference for these interpretations (which I don't see listed), I don't think the Plot section is the place for them. I suggest the section be rewritten and limited to what is actually in the film. --Sm5574 (talk) 00:22, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

I have rewritten the section. I'm not saying it's perfect, but I believe it holds close to the film as presented, and so any future changes should follow that lead. --Sm5574 (talk) 03:53, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

While it’s a decent synopsis / overview of the film … does it really describe “the plot” per se? ( i.e. what we see on screen ). On one level, it’s an opinion of the events. I have no issues with the synopsis - indeed I do not have a better answer / explanation / version - but, the film is open to various interpretations of what is going on, whether planned or not. ( Just noting. ) 75.106.32.81 (talk) 19:09, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Production & Marketing Rehash …

Both sections end with the exact same Bob & Jack and their wacky bumper sticker on a cop’s helmet story. ( Funny once, less so when repeated.) 🤷🏼‍♂️ But, seriously , one needs to be edited out, dealer’s choice.75.106.32.81 (talk) 19:03, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Running Times - Missing Scenes?

The article mentions two different running times, does anyone know what changes happened, or what scenes were cut? I know of the “mirror sequences”, where each Monkees sees themselves differently; Micky as Pan, Peter as a sad clown, etc. But, were other things cut out? It seems like there is a 20 minute difference. 75.106.32.81 (talk) 19:18, 21 April 2024 (UTC)