Talk:Hawksbill sea turtle

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Tortoiseshell Ornament[edit]

The picture of the tortoiseshell ornament claims its origin is Japanese, while the caption of the very same picture in the article on tortoiseshell material states it is from Palau. Does anyone know where it's actually from? Steinhauser 11:42, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm...I'll check the history of the pic itself. As for tortoiseshell ornaments themselves, they're typically Japanese. May have to fix the tortoiseshell ornament article. Shrumster 12:09, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gallery Photo[edit]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this image labelled as a Hawksbill in Tobago is actually a Leatherback. Can anyone confirm? Jnpet 08:02, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Or possibly a green turtle. It's the tail that doesn't fit. I don't think hawksbill turtles have tails like that. Jnpet 09:44, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely not a leatherback. From this angle, it might be a really old hawksbill (explaining the lack of serration on the posterior margin of the carapace), a green or a loggerhead. Since the pic isn't clear enough to count or make-out the scute pattern of the carapace, I guess we'll just go with it as a hawksbill until something clearer comes along.Shrumster 05:54, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Digest glass?[edit]

Not sure if turtles really can digest glass, sounds like someone is confused with "glass sponge", which I doubt really contains glass in the form most people know it. Please correct, as I'm not a turtle expert. 82.69.54.182 23:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hexactinnelids, i.e. glass sponges, do contain organic glass spicules in the form of SiO2. While I am not certain if these are digestible by E. imbricata, they (the turtles) do eat glass sponges, along with the more common demosponges, which have both SiO2 and CaCO3 spicules. Shrumster 06:10, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Revamp and Reorganization[edit]

Phew, done with my first draft of reorganizing the article. Hope you guys like it. Shrumster 07:49, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Super revamp, nominated for peer review. Shrumster 05:54, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Stuff for adding in later[edit]

image:EretmochelysImbricata ShellScutes.png, ~~Image:Lieux pontes tortue ecaille.png~~, Image:EretmochelysImbricata HeadScutes.png, ~~Image:Tortue imbriqueeld4.jpg~~

Shrumster 20:06, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Corrected misplaced modifier[edit]

"...it is illegal to capture and to trade in hawksbill turtles and products derived from them in many nations." could mean that it is illegal to trade in the products that many nations derive from the turtle. It's more clear to put the modifier, "in many nations" in a place where it clearly refers to (modifies) *both* the turtles and the products made from them. (Alternatively, set the parenthetical clause in commas, viz: "it is illegal to capture hawksbill turtles, and to trade in them or the products derived from them, in many nations." This also makes it clear that "in many nations" refers to the whole shebang, but it's longer and more convoluted. The first is more concise and clearer.) Unimaginative Username (talk) 06:01, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Double mixed tenses[edit]

"In China, where it was known as tai mei, it is called the tortoise-shell turtle, named primarily for its shell, which was used for decoration." That's two changes of tense in one sentence. Since I didn't do the research, I don't know what was intended or how to correct it. Are we speaking strictly of the past (was), of the present (is), or of both, in which case clarification would be needed, e. g. "In ancient times, it was known as 'tai mei', and is currently called 'the tortoise-shell turtle', named primarily for its shell, which has been used for decoration from ancient times to the present". I'm not saying that's how it should read; just giving an example so that someone who knows the correct tenses of each clause can make the sentence consistent or consistently-described though time. If multiple eras are involved, splitting it into shorter sentences, perhaps one referring to the past and one to the present, might not be a bad idea. Unimaginative Username (talk) 07:13, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why is long lifespan a threat?[edit]

"General consensus has determined sea turtles, including Eretmochelys imbricata to be, at the very least, threatened species because of their long lifespans, slow growth and maturity, and slow reproductive rates. Many adult turtles have been killed by humans, both deliberately and incidentally."

The following ref doesn't mention this subject.Lfstevens (talk) 16:26, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

illegal hunting in Micronesia[edit]

This week 6 people died as a result of food poisoning from Hawksbill turtle meat in Micronesia. 90 people are hospitalized. Maybe we can add that info to the article. Regards.--Abuk SABUK (talk) 17:07, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just reading over the first few sentences...[edit]

"The hawksbill turtle (Eretmochelys imbricata) is a critically endangered sea turtle belonging to the family Cheloniidae. It is the only species in its genus. The species has a worldwide distribution, with Atlantic and Pacific subspecies." This could use some copyediting. I recommend something like:

"The hawksbill turtle (Eretmochelys imbricata) is a critically endangered sea turtle that belongs to the Cheloniidae family. Eretmochelys is a monotypic genus and (insert some other factoid here). The species has a cosmopolitan distribution as the Atlantic and Pacific oceans contain distinct subspecies."

Let me know what you think.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 04:09, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, fine if: The hawksbill sea turtle (Eretmochelys imbricata) etc. ;-) Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 04:22, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hmhm...okay. :-) NYMFan69-86 (talk) 04:26, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure critically endangered belongs in the first sentence. The article is quite messy, it's not of the standard to pass as an FA article today. It's got promoted to FA in March 2007, things have changed a bit since! Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 04:52, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, quite. A few other things caught my eye as well, I'm afraid to start making changes though. (...p.s. is it really 4:57 a.m. where you live!?...go to bed!). :-) NYMFan69-86 (talk) 04:57, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect article name[edit]

The correct name for this is Hawksbill sea turtle, as the Loggerhead sea turtle, reference page 000.93. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 01:54, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wonder if anyone's even monitoring this page anymore. That's an important change that needs to be made, good find. Also, I see some things that need a copy-edit (previous heading). Should we seek out the editor that nominated this for FA, or maybe notify ZooPro that the page needs to be moved?--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 02:39, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

50 editors have this page on a watchlist. Let's see if anyone turns up. It appears the name has never been discussed(no talk history) and page is move protected because it was on main page. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 04:18, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alrighty.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 04:22, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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FAR[edit]

This article that has been promoted since 2008 is outdated. Article also contains a lot of unsourced statements. Should be sent into FAR soon. 119.111.181.248 (talk) 13:33, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]