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Could you please discuss...[edit]

I am going to ask the contributor who made this big, unexplained excision to return here to explain why they thought it was necessary.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 19:14, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I waited a couple of weeks for an explanation. None being offered I have restored the references excised without explanation. Geo Swan (talk) 16:49, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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"War ship"[edit]

Hi all. Are these patrol boats or warships? Any Armor? What's the combat system? Any air search/surveillance radar, fire control radar, or sonar suite? I wonder if they should be called along the line "multi-purpose, ice-capable offshore patrol ships"? Thanks, --Now wiki (talk) 13:40, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Follow the sources. Patrol ships are warships. Llammakey (talk) 14:55, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Danish and Irish patrol ships[edit]

Hi all, if you look at the ships in the Irish and Danish navies that are patrol ships they smaller in tonnage and do not have ice breaking capability. The Wikipedia pages of both are the sources on this. Ashen Knight (talk) 17:59, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Llammakey (talk) 18:06, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Harry Dewolf-class offshore patrol vessel: "non-notable sailing"[edit]

Is this phrase defined somewhere? These two ships are currently out at sea simultaneously, so the previous statement is demonstrably no longer the case. The only reference I could find to the current sailing of HMCS William Hall is as follows: "On May 5th, WILLIAM HALL held a ceremony at sea commemorating Battle of the Atlantic Sunday." (https://www.facebook.com/HMCS.NCSM.WilliamHall/). Is that a "notable sailing"? This criticism section seems disingenuous if it is not subsequently recognized that the Navy can indeed man multiple AOPS at the same time. Thanks. 184.147.246.47 (talk) 23:51, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The RCN Fleet Tracker app shows HMCS Margaret Brooke sailing in the Caribbean near Barbados on 5 May 24. Obviously, HMCS Max Bernays is now commissioned. Therefore, you are quite correct that multiple AOPS are in service. Thus, the comment about there being insufficient crews is no longer correct. It could be modified to reflect the changes.

The sailings themselves are not noteworthy, but the fact that they are occurring simultaneously is. Bluenose Gunner (talk) 00:23, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Taking the non-notable sailings of two ships and using them as proof to counter an argument is WP:OR. You need to find a WP:RS that counters what the admiral said. If the sailings were deployments - Operation Nanook and Caribbe for example - that would be two operational ships. A commemorative sail is definitely non-notable and not indicative of operational capability. Furthermore, this is Wikipedia - every time a church bell is rung to commemorate something does not need to reported on the website per WP:NOTNEWS. Also Facebook is not WP:RS. Please read the links I have provided. Llammakey (talk) 19:32, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks guys. Appreciate the feedback. The coastal transfer of HMCS Max Bernays had a blended crew "of 55 West and 43 East Coast Royal Canadian Navy fleet members":

https://www.cheknews.ca/hmcs-max-bernays-arrives-at-the-esquimalt-harbour-1199624/

It looks like progress is being made. Hopefully some future simultaneous notable sailings will soon demonstrate a growing capability. Point taken re: original research - guilty as charged. 184.147.246.47 (talk) 21:02, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your efforts.

Hopefully, we can soon find a credible ref that shows multiple AOPS at sea at the same time so that we change the obviously dated entry about insufficient crews for more than one ship. Bluenose Gunner (talk) 22:37, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]