Talk:Harikesa Swami

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History is relative. All of the statements given within are factual and true. If you wish to put in statements such as "mismanagement," you are introducing relativity into history. Such as term is given by others who either did not like the person, do not know factually what was done and how (very few do) or have a general ax to grind. How does one historically verify mismanagement? Obviously thousands of people participated in all of the projects mentioned herein, however, since the biography is about Harikesa Swami, it makes sense that the text refers to it from his point of view. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robcamp108 (talk • contribs) 14:27, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The tone of this Wiki seems more like an personal advertisement than a statement of factual reality. It certainly does not acknowledge the part the many participants played in the production and development of the BBT. While I advocate "credit where credit is due" I don't know who originally wrote this, from the incredibly uncritical tone it must have been a misguided follower, or someone who was not present during the time Robert was mismanaging ISKCON/BBT affairs. Comeon Chopper Dave, live up to your epithet! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.14.16.166 (talk) 00:56, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Recent Edits[edit]

OK, I do get the point that writing about things that are not easily verifiable is not good. I get it. But how do you verify that Harikesa Swami took vibhuti? How do you verify that he made a relationship with Monika? Seems these are word of mouth. Or worse, you are taking an article from an unreliable source that took it from word of mouth. In that case, I can create a web site that gives the "real" history and quote that as a source of information. --Hari 23:45, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Neutrality refers to not taking sides as to whether or not a historical act is good or bad. In stating facts, one is allowed to simply say it as it is. Considering that the text I am including is written by the one who knows best what the history was, it is the clearest history one will get. There is no value in stating that Harikesa Swami was initiated and then he took some medicine and resigned. What value is that? Why is this noteworthy? Someone joined a movement and then left it? This has no historical significance. Wikidas refrain from including libelous information about a living person in Wiki, regardless of your idea of your status. None of the points you put in your comment can be proved as they are not only untrue but severe distortions of the facts of the situation that also disregard the accomplishments of the people involved. You are also disgracing publicly the people who contributed to the development of ISKCON. If you do not like the facts, then agree with the deletion of the article for it has no value to anyone in the form it seems to return to due to uninformed people as yourself. I shall edit the text to make it more neutral. Do not remove it. You have no cause. --Hari 23:45, 4 March 2010 (UTC)Hari 22:56, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

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On a side note, what is VODR? Google returns nothing of value. Chopper Dave 22:21, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am new to the discussion thing. VODR is the Russian acronym for the Vedic Society For Krsna Consciousness registered as a religious institution in St Petersburg Russia.

Robcamp108 22:13, 13 May 2007 (UTC) Robert[reply]

I am trying to restore the integrity of the history. After the original page on Robert Campagnola was vandalized by a redirect to Harikesa Swami, it became imperative to correct the libelous and historically irrelevant information given there. This updated history gives a glimpse into the actual events in this life. What is relevant in the history of Harikesa Swami is the manner in which the culture of the vaisnava tradition was integrated into the western culture and these innovations listed were important to that integration. If this is not considered important then why have this category at all? I am sorry that in Wikipedia vandalism of an entire page is tolerated, but removing incorrect points and linking historical periods and those within them for no reason is considered vandalism. RobertC - Hari (talk) 14:36, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments that were placed here are libelous. I have removed them. You cannot remove text in a history when you have no understanding of it, neither any contact with the reality of it. Hari 22:40, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

This comment is to Wikidas regarding his ludicrous assumptions. What you have written is absurd. Is heresay and an invention. There is no way to reply to this for there is no platform of reality to reply on. Is this why the history has been vandalized again? If this is so, then this page should be deleted as there is no neutrality in it, no fact, and no interest for anyone other than those who wish to read fiction in Wikipedia. Hari 22:31, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Discography moved to bottom of page[edit]

I tried to make the discography but it moved itself to the bottom of the page. When I edit discography it shows up properly, but the page does not display properly, or at least not while I am editing it. I did something wrong. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Robcamp108 (talk • contribs) 01:16, 14 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Fixed this. Thanks for the VDOR info above. On a side note, any chance of releasing old books online? I'm not so sure of the available sites for doing this, but i'm sure there would be some interest. Chopper Dave 05:03, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean, releasing old books on-line? Do you mean scanning them? I could do this, but it is a BIG work and I would rather someone else did that as I am not so interested in the books. I :think I got the copyrights back, but I am not sure. Anyway, I doubt the BBT would fight for the copyrights to my books even if I did not have them. -- --RobertC - Hari 15:14, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I figured you might have them in computer format. Just a suggestion :) Chopper Dave 18:48, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I have been looking for covers of RASA albums - are the below covers your RASA, or a different band with the same name?

File:Rasa Everything.jpg

Chopper Dave 08:17, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Those are different Rasa's. The first is an album made by the NY Temple (actually Gurudas -- Jorge Barrerria or something like that) and the Rasa refers to the albums title. The second is made by Kim something or other and she took the name for her group. -- --RobertC - Hari 15:14, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Chop, who are you anyway? You are doing such a nice thing here. Just curious, -- --RobertC - Hari 15:14, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am a young bhakta from New Zealand. No one special :) Chopper Dave 18:48, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RASA and other bands[edit]

To prevent the page from growing unnecessarily long, I suggest that you could start RASA (band) and BLISS (band) pages. We can then move the discography there, and have a links under the "Recording Artist" section of this page to those bands. Chopper Dave 18:57, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That is a good idea. It will take some time as I am busy mixing tracks from our previous live recording. Some from a small video camera are already on the site now...--RobertC - Hari 15:07, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have created a RASA -- The Band and BLISS -- by Hari and wrote some preliminary blah blah to start--RobertC - Hari 15:37, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikified them up a little. If you could add genre information that would be helpful (I can categorize them with that also). Chopper Dave 19:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As the pages for Rasa and Bliss were removed, I restored the correct discography. As other commentators have said that the music done was a pioneering blend of Indian and Western music within the spiritual context, the discography has been updated to solidify that fact. ----

I wonder who wrote it. Boot should have signed this one but missed it.Wikid ^as© 15:23, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote it. Hari 22:32, 4 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robcamp108 (talk • contribs)

I removed the wrong discography entry: "Everything You See Is Me". It seems that Robert Campagnola was not credited on this LP. Please see: http://www.discogs.com/Rasa-Everything-You-See-Is-Me/release/843564 and the back cover at: http://krsna.110mb.com/pics/ra-106-2.jpg. If this LP was to be replaced on the discography list, please add a note on how Robert was involved with it. Btw, Rasa deserves a decent page on Wikipedia.188.2.239.107 (talk) 22:31, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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