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Future of theater[edit]

What will happen to the theater complex space???66.41.66.213 19:55, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My guess is that it'll become a big box store of some sort. TenPoundHammer 16:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Ruby2010 (talk · contribs) 02:22, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As a MN native, I couldn't resist this one. Claiming for review, should begin posting comments within a few days. Ruby 2010/2013 02:22, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Comments

The article is well-written but short, especially considering its long history. I've tried researching some additional content you could add, and came up with the following:

More details on its history. This Minnesota Historical Society book may provide some useable information on the mall's (now closed) theater, for example. I also found this article about its original completion by the Slawiks that might help (ah, I see you're using this already – but I think there is more that can be pulled from it). Also this Harvard study?
More details about 1981 update (after tornado). What changed about its appearance?
More analysis of current state of mall? [1]
Apparently the mall has inspired one singer! Mention somewhere? [2] [3] [4] I see he is currently in the See also section, but I wonder if it would be better to incorporate into the prose somewhere?
Split out the information about current tenants or occupants into a new section, which would allow you to expand that further. I looked at other architecture GAs for ideas and found this, this, this, and this. Possible sources to help expansion: [5] [6]

This article claims that the mall was done by architecture firm Fendler Patterson. Could you check that?
This 2008 article mentions "Representatives of the New York firm behind the $10 million to $12 million makeover of Har Mar Mall in Roseville". Could you look into what this makeover might have entailed?
"To compete with the opening of nearby Rosedale Center, it went through a significant expansion in 1971." Source?
News citations should use the =work parameter, as that allows the source to be italicized (such as Pioneer Press)
Dates should be American format (e.g. April 12, 2015 not 12 April 2015)

I realize it may be difficult to find additional information for some of my content suggestions above, but let me know what you think. Even a little further expansion would help the article tremendously. Placing review on hold, please reply here with any questions or comments. Thanks! Ruby 2010/2013 17:00, 24 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Ruby2010: Thanks for your review! I have been extremely busy and although I expect to comply to your suggestions shortly, it may take longer than seven days. I hope you understand, thanks. Carbrera (talk) 01:44, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No problem at all, take your time! There's no rush. Ruby 2010/2013 01:48, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Ruby2010: Well that's Minnesota-nice for you; I've seen other editors on here that strictly instruct the 7-day suggestion and rarely allow exceptions. Thanks for being understanding; I'm from St. Michael by the way–oh dontcha know? Carbrera (talk) 01:50, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I don't usually see the need to impose a review deadline, as long as changes are made within a reasonable time period! It must be MN Nice after all (sometimes I think this site could benefit more from this outlook...!) —Warm regards from a Northfield native, Ruby 2010/2013 02:06, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Carbrera:, @Ruby2010: Hi, no activity here since a month? Sainsf (talk · contribs) 07:38, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Sainsf: Actually, I expanded the article about two days ago. It should be done within the day :) Carbrera (talk) 16:40, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Ruby2010: Could you look over it again? Thanks!! Carbrera (talk) 18:22, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Shoot, not sure how I missed this ping. I will take another look shortly. Ruby 2010/2013 14:52, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Ruby2010: Sorry to bother you, but any word? Carbrera (talk) 03:24, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

After making a few copyedits, I think the article looks good. Passing for GA. Nice work! Ruby 2010/2013 22:41, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Discrepancy with manager name in summary and sidebar[edit]

In the summary section on top, the manager is listed as Va(r)barton Services, but the sidebar has them listed as Va(n)barton Services LLC. Since so many webpages scrape Wikipedia for info, I'm having trouble verifying it from online sources, but I would assume it is Vanbarton with an N. Then they would share a name with the owner. 76.11.210.112 (talk) 06:50, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Website URL is wrong[edit]

The url for this mall in Minnesota, U.S. is listed as https://harmarmall.com/ (in the Quick Facts sidebar, possibly elsewhere) but that leads to a Vietnamese website seemingly unconnected to this mall. 208.190.141.214 (talk) 23:52, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]