Talk:Halton United
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Also could be tagged as recreation of previously deleted article: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Burlington SC. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:39, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- What is this nonsense? What kind of game is this? There are already 9 teams out of 10 from CSL and you are saying this is not notable and want to delete it?! Common sense is obviously lacking here - please use it before suggesting speedy deletion next time. Those arguments for deletion are ridiculous, if this is to be deleted, lets delete other 9 teams/articles as well. And than thousands of minor football club articles too. If this will be deleted this will be the last article I've created here. This is crazy. Yxifix (talk) 01:08, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- No nonsense. No game. The league they're in is not a fully professional one and so the club must have general notability: articles, or famous players. We looked for sources at the AfD above and could find none. Put links to the minor football club articles on my talk page and I'll gladly review them and nominate those that do not meet notability guidelines for the AfD process as well. Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:40, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- I suspect that by the end of the season there will be a sufficient number of local news stories to support notability, but there aren't any now. Of course, if you want to get into a bribery scandal like Toronto Croatia did, you could meet that threshold a lot sooner. Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:44, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yes it is nonsense, and I consider it to be just some kind of childish game of yours considering tons of minor football club/player articles all around the world which are already on wikipedia containing only some basic information about them. Don't act like you don't know about this. The league is semi-professional, and even if it were amateur who cares, there are 9 out of 10 teams already on wikipedia, 11 out of 12 teams from 2013 season, all 16 teams from 2012 season. If all these are notable, then obviously this one, as a member of the league, must be notable as well. It should be complete.... but you somehow do not want this one here because you can't find a source which is good enough for you. Tis is a JOKE. The purpose of this new article is to help other users, who may be willing to contribute in the future but can't be bothered to create new articles. On top of that, there is a logo and some basic information about the team, which is good enough for the start. Whole history of the club is not necessary now. Yxifix (talk) 02:28, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not asking for the whole club history but for reliable sources that confer the notability of the subject. The other teams offer that while this one doesn't. That's why the article was deleted after a long discussion. That's why this article should be deleted. If you would like to nominate others, you know where to make the list. Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:24, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- There is an official website of the league, I don't know what else you need. And I've already explained why this is a notable subject, your inability to understand and the lack of common sense is your problem. It's ridiculous to say that the league itself and all teams in the league in last 9 seasons are all notable, well, except this one. That's just absurd. Yxifix (talk) 05:36, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- I'm sorry you don't understand what the problem is. A notable team is one that is a member of a fully professional league. CSL doesn't meet that criteria. After that, if the team is written about it might meet general notability guidelines. Neither of those is the case so no article. When it does get written about, then we can create an article. Not before.
- The league is notable because it's been written about. Many of the other teams are notable because they've been written about. Toronto Croatia is notable for several other reasons. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:17, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- Well, use google if you want to find out if it was written about, saying it hasn't been is just another nonsense of yours. Or are there some other rules of yours like where exactly it must be written about and what form the article must be in or maybe who must write the article? It surely does meet general notability guidelines. Did you know that plenty of bookmakers have this league in their offer? [[1]] And now tell me it is not notable. Yxifix (talk) 13:30, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- Feel free to use Google to find sources. If you find any that meet RS, create an article that includes them. It's been redirected to the league for now. Bookmakers are not reliable sources and as has been seen by Toronto Croatia (and apparently a few other CSL sides) have deep pockets to buy CSL players to throw games. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:20, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- Bookmakers are not reliable sources? WTF? You obviously don't even now what the word "notable" means. We are talking about notability of the article not about whether someone has deep pocket or not. You are just spinning around in your ridiculous arguments. Waste of time. Yxifix (talk) 19:05, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- I'm sorry they're not reliable sources as far as Wikipedia is concerned. I do know what notable means in Wikipedia terms. As far as this article's existence on Wikipedia, those are all that matter. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:36, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- Bookmakers are not reliable sources? WTF? You obviously don't even now what the word "notable" means. We are talking about notability of the article not about whether someone has deep pocket or not. You are just spinning around in your ridiculous arguments. Waste of time. Yxifix (talk) 19:05, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- Feel free to use Google to find sources. If you find any that meet RS, create an article that includes them. It's been redirected to the league for now. Bookmakers are not reliable sources and as has been seen by Toronto Croatia (and apparently a few other CSL sides) have deep pockets to buy CSL players to throw games. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:20, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- Well, use google if you want to find out if it was written about, saying it hasn't been is just another nonsense of yours. Or are there some other rules of yours like where exactly it must be written about and what form the article must be in or maybe who must write the article? It surely does meet general notability guidelines. Did you know that plenty of bookmakers have this league in their offer? [[1]] And now tell me it is not notable. Yxifix (talk) 13:30, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- There is an official website of the league, I don't know what else you need. And I've already explained why this is a notable subject, your inability to understand and the lack of common sense is your problem. It's ridiculous to say that the league itself and all teams in the league in last 9 seasons are all notable, well, except this one. That's just absurd. Yxifix (talk) 05:36, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not asking for the whole club history but for reliable sources that confer the notability of the subject. The other teams offer that while this one doesn't. That's why the article was deleted after a long discussion. That's why this article should be deleted. If you would like to nominate others, you know where to make the list. Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:24, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yes it is nonsense, and I consider it to be just some kind of childish game of yours considering tons of minor football club/player articles all around the world which are already on wikipedia containing only some basic information about them. Don't act like you don't know about this. The league is semi-professional, and even if it were amateur who cares, there are 9 out of 10 teams already on wikipedia, 11 out of 12 teams from 2013 season, all 16 teams from 2012 season. If all these are notable, then obviously this one, as a member of the league, must be notable as well. It should be complete.... but you somehow do not want this one here because you can't find a source which is good enough for you. Tis is a JOKE. The purpose of this new article is to help other users, who may be willing to contribute in the future but can't be bothered to create new articles. On top of that, there is a logo and some basic information about the team, which is good enough for the start. Whole history of the club is not necessary now. Yxifix (talk) 02:28, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
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