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On 4 September 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to HMP Belmarsh. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Untitled[edit]

personal attack removed SGGH ^speak! 18:33, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject Prisons[edit]

If anyone's interested, I've proposed a new wikiproject for the creation of articles regarding specific prisons here. --Cdogsimmons (talk) 01:53, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Plumstead[edit]

I had added Plumstead railway station purely because Thamesmead is a big place and this is the nearest station.Eugene-elgato (talk) 21:15, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the addition, but wikipedia is not a directory, and shouldn't give 'directions' to the locations of places. This article is well linked to the Prison's website which does give directions. None of the London or UK prison articles give specific directions. Bleaney (talk) 22:22, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, yeah I agree now.Eugene-elgato (talk) 23:57, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 1 December 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus. (non-admin closure) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:44, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

– ... and all other prison articles in the UK. Prisons in the UK are commonly referred to as "HMP XXX" and not "HM Prison XXX". See these BBC articles, for example: 1, 2 and 3. As far as I can tell, there is very little / no use of the "HM Prison XXX" format outside Wikipedia. ElshadK (talk) 18:47, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Rather to my surprise, the photographs I found of prison nameboards use "H.M. Prison ..."[1][2] and Ordnance Survey maps use "HM Prison ...".[3] So I think the present naming is fine. In fact it seems that, for example, "Belmarsh Prison" is more common in general writing if Ngrams is to be believed[4] and this is waht the Department of Justice uses.[5] However, I wouldn't bother changing to this either since it would be an unnecessary disturbance. Anyway "Prison" scores highly in recognisability. Thincat (talk) 10:29, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Fine as it is. While HMP is commonly used, so is HM Prison, and that's less confusing for those not in the know. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:55, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Move discussion in progress[edit]

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:HM Prison Wormwood Scrubs which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 18:03, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]