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Scientific Racism[edit]

Cochran is bluntly described here as a racist: "a proponent of human biodiversity, a contemporary branch of scientific racism." One of the sources given for this accusation is the Southern Poverty Law Center, a highly partisan group that sometimes unfairly labels its political opponents as hate mongers (ex: Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Maajid Nawaz, etc). If you are going to make a serious charge of racism, you had better be able to back it up with a lot more evidence than this.

Note that the first two references do not mention Cochran. GC and the 10000 year explosion have received a good deal of coverage in RSs -much of it positive. calling him a proponent of scienfici racism in wikipedia's voice would need to be sourcing (better than the splc) that actually does that. NPalgan2 (talk) 13:31, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve attempted to address this by stating that he is associated with the ‘human biodiversity’ milieu, and note that critics have described it as scientific racism; both these statements are much more easily supported, including with sources friendly to Cochran (in the Taki’s article, Steve Sailer even asserts that his HBD mailing list is how Cochran and his 10000-year leap coauthor/West Hunter collaborator Harpending met). 23.115.162.60 (talk) 05:24, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Deprecated sources and exceptions[edit]

Unfortunately, many of the article’s sources for the subject’s controversial ongoing work in "human biodiversity" (see also discussion above) came from his own or his admirers’ writings in otherwise deprecated sources. I made a couple of attempts to note this in edit comments, citing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deprecated_sources#Acceptable_uses_of_deprecated_sources, but the bot obviously can’t understand that.

23.115.162.60 (talk) 04:57, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, editors should try to use reliable secondary sources. I don't think self-published and unreliable sources are appropriate. Citing Cochran's own self-published blog is probably not allowed. Sxologist (talk) 23:39, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]