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Great Orme mine[edit]

I found this useful source to use : https://theconversation.com/amp/bronze-age-discovery-reveals-surprising-extent-of-britains-trade-with-europe-3-600-years-ago-125973 Yug (talk) 06:53, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Origin of the name Orme[edit]

The following speculations have been reversed:

Another possibility, again with no evidence (yet), is that 'Orme' is derived from the Greek word 'Ormos', meaning 'bay'. It could have been bestowed by a classically educated romantic who gave the name 'Great Orme's Head' to the mountain at the head of Llandudno Bay. 'Great Orme' is a modern abbreviation.

That 'orme' means 'elm' in French does not seem to help much.

Comment[edit]

Concerning the Nordic origins of the word Orme in British place names, there are many examples and this has been suggested many times as the origin of the Great Orme and Little Orme names and also such other versions encountered in earlier texts such as The Ormesheads and Orme's Bay etc.

The Orme names were in common use (although probably not local use) long before tourism discovered the potential of 'Saint Georges Bay'.

Wikipedia rules do not admit "original research". NoelWalley 20:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

pronunciation[edit]

I removed the pronunciation, which was wrong to the point of being unintelligible. kwami 22:46, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Creuddyn[edit]

Can I ask what is the source for 'Creuddyn' as an "earlier Welsh name" for Y Gogarth? Creuddyn usually refers to the Llandudno area as a whole as it was the name of the medieval cwmwd and included modern Degannwy and Penrhyn Bay. I've never come across an example of it being being used to designate the Orme itself. Does someone have a reference? Enaidmawr 00:16, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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