Talk:Gravity (2013 film)/GA2

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Reviewer: Ssven2 (talk · contribs) 03:57, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Discussion[edit]

I will review this article. Thank you. Ssven2 (talk) 03:57, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lead[edit]

  • Can you empty the references as per WP:LEAD and describe them in the later headings but you can keep the references for the "Science Fiction Thriller" portion of the lead section. (For example: The "Telluride Film Festival" reference can be removed and placed in "Release" section.) Ssven2 (talk) 04:09, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Removed all the references from the lead section. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 08:06, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Plot[edit]

  • Plot Section looks great. Instead of "radios blind", you can write "radios in the blind". You can remove "dead or alive" and just simply leave it as "ready to head back to Earth". Ssven2 (talk) 04:36, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done as you suggested. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 08:10, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cast[edit]

  • "Sandra Bullock stars as Dr. Ryan Stone, and George Clooney as Lieutenant Matt Kowalski in the film." can be rephrased as "Sandra Bullock and George Clooney star as Dr. Ryan Stone and Lieutenant Matt Kowalski respectively." Ssven2 (talk) 04:42, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Rephrased. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 08:19, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Development[edit]

  • "Scheduling conflicts involving Gravity, Jolie's Bosnian war film In the Land of Blood and Honey, and a possible Salt sequel led Jolie to exit her involvement with Gravity" - Can you remove the "Gravity" word before "Jolie's Bosnian" part? Ssven2 (talk) 04:47, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Removed. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 08:27, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Can you rephrase the sentence "In mid-2010, Marion Cotillard tested for the female lead role." as "In mid-2010, Marion Cotillard attended a screen test for the female lead role."? Ssven2 (talk) 04:48, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah sure, it's done now. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 08:30, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • "who was being praised for her performance in the recently released Black Swan." can be rephrased as "who was praised for her performance in Black Swan at that time." Ssven2 (talk) 04:50, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 08:33, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Filming[edit]

  • "Gravity had a production budget of $100 million and was filmed digitally on multiple Arri Alexa cameras." can be rephrased as "Made on a production budget of $100 million, Gravity was filmed digitally on multiple Arri Alexa cameras." Ssven2 (talk) 04:54, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, rephrased. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 08:39, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • What does "Live elements" mean? If there is an alternative way of expressing it, please rephrase the word. Ssven2 (talk) 04:56, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, actually I've read the word somewhere I don't remember but I think it's actually the word "CG elements." So, I've rephrased it. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 08:46, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Where is the source for the line "The soundtrack in the film's space scenes consists of the musical score and sounds astronauts would hear in their suits or in the space vehicles."? Ssven2 (talk) 04:59, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it's done too. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 15:40, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Themes[edit]

  • "Cuarón uses Stone" can be rephrased as "Cuarón uses the character, Stone, to" for more clarity. Ssven2 (talk) 05:09, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 15:45, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • "mortal consequences of a relentless Murphy's law" can be simply written as "consequences of Murphy's law". Ssven2 (talk) 05:09, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Ssven2: I think, we should keep the "relentless" word, and just "mortal" be removed. It tells what Murphy's law actually is. What do you say? --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 15:48, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well, since you have wikilinked Murphy's Law, that's why I had asked you to remove "relentless". You can keep the word anyway (the reason I suggested removing it is because IMHO, it look like an honorific to the law. ) Ssven2 (talk) 02:49, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 03:24, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • "vacuum of space with the sound of the score." can be rephrased as "vacuum of space with the background score giving the desired effect." Ssven2 (talk) 05:09, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 15:54, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • "posit" can be replaced with a more simpler understanble word, (example: postulate or propose) Ssven2 (talk) 05:09, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, "postulate" is a better word then. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 15:57, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Release[edit]

  • "post-production effects work" can be written as "post-production work". Ssven2 (talk) 05:25, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 15:59, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Box office[edit]
  • "eighth-highest grossing film of 2013" can be wikilinked. Ssven2 (talk) 05:25, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 16:09, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Critical response[edit]
  • Mention that each reviewer gave the film its star ratings, (example: You can write it like this - "X gave the film X out of x stars" for whichever magazine, website or newspaper that uses star ratings.) Ssven2 (talk) 05:25, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I think the whole section needs to be rewrite, what do you say? --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 03:28, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No need to rewrite, just give the rating for the movie by the reviewers (whichever one uses ratings). For those who don't have ratings, just leave them as they are fine. (i.e. they look great) Ssven2 (talk) 03:44, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I think Rolling Stone and RogerEbert.com are the only ones to use ratings and its solved already. Another thing, Corliss's review borders on WP:QUOTEFARM, so you can put a quote box for the "Cuarón shows things that cannot be but..." part. Ssven2 (talk) 03:52, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 16:43, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Accolades[edit]
  • The references from the lead section about the awards can be removed from there and placed here. Ssven2 (talk) 05:25, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Already done in the start. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 16:12, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

  • Follow a single reference style. You know the drill. If you plan on adding notes in the "Notes" section, please do so, otherwise, remove it. Ssven2 (talk) 05:30, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it's removed. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 03:29, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • In case you don't know which style I am referring to, the refernce style should be followed like this for example :-

Stewart, Andrew (October 4, 2013). "Box Office: ‘Gravity’ Tracking for a $40 Mil-Plus Bow With Record 3D Sales". Variety. Penske Media Corporation. Retrieved October 6, 2013.

Names of 'newspapers and magazines' should be 'italicised' and 'websites' should be in 'normal style of writing'. Ssven2 (talk) 08:12, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any ref which is not in the manual of style. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 16:54, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Captain Assassin!: Ok then, archive the Reference 2 as mentioned below. Ssven2 (talk) 17:25, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I've never archived any ref before, but I tried this one and there was an error, given below.
"The caching attempt failed for the following reason: No files could be downloaded for the given URL. This is likely because
a) The URL is incorrect,
b) The site in question refuses connections by crawling robots, or
c) The site in question is inaccessible from the WebCite network"
So what do I do now? --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 18:56, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Finally I did it, done all. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 19:03, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Captain Assassin!: If you address these concerns, I will pass the article. Ssven2 (talk) 05:30, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Alright Ssven2, I'm starting it in a few hours. It's good to see a new and good reviewer here. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 07:49, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Alright Ssven2, it's done at last. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 19:07, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:
    Has underwent a C/e from WP:GOCE so no issues regarding prose, there were few, I fixed them while reviewing. Quotes use " " and have sources backing them up. So Criteria 1a is good for me.
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. Has an appropriate reference section:
    B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
    B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
  7. Overall: Passed, my queries were met and solved by the nominator.
    Pass or Fail:

@Captain Assassin!: Congratulations, Gravity has passed the test. Ssven2 (talk) 03:26, 30 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Ssven2, for the review and help all along. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 03:29, 30 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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