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Did you know... that the Star Wars expanded universe villain Grand Admiral Thrawn will be reintroduced into the franchise's official canon in an upcoming episode of the animated series Star Wars Rebels?

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The name Thrawn[edit]

It has a meaning, unlike most Star Wars names. My entry left it open whether this is a coincidence or not. But readers would surely wish to know.

It is also not the first use in SF. Julian May uses it, as I note in my reference.

--GwydionM (talk) 17:23, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As I noted in my most recent edit summary, this "fact" is WP:Original research since there is no source connecting the character's name to the real world Scottish/Irish word. It may be interesting but it does not meet the criteria for inclusion. The Julian May usage is connected to the Scottish word, so would only possibly be relevant in a wiktionary entry about that. Thanks.— TAnthony^Talk 17:30, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop restoring this unsourced tangential fact to the article. You will not find such unsourced name definitions in any other GA or better fictional character or biographical article at Wikipedia for a reason.— TAnthony^Talk 17:50, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Its inclusion would suggest that the meaning of the word has something to do with the character. It doesn't.— TAnthony^Talk 17:53, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Um, you cannot cite a message board response from fans as a source, which you just did here. One user (Andrew Lim) seems to have explained WP sourcing to you in much detail. The "Full-time Star Wars geek" you've cited as saying "I recall from the annotated edition of HTTE that he mentioned being aware of the Scots meaning of 'thrawn'" is NOT a reliable source. But assuming she is correct, I'm going to have to insist on a page number from that edition if you can find one, thanks so much.— TAnthony^Talk 19:29, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I would also like to note that Zahn being aware of the word doesn't necessarily make it relevant to this article unless he is suggesting he intended the connotation of what it means to reflect on the character. Lim also believes the connection to be a coincidence. Perhaps he will let you add this to Wookieepedia?— TAnthony^Talk 19:38, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]