Talk:Grade skipping

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Social maturity versus intellectual maturity[edit]

I added back the sentence on difficulties with social maturity. This is because students usually skip grades because of their intellectual maturity, but this does not necessarily go along with their social maturity. Also, while it may be best in many cases for students to wait until they're socially mature enough for the next grade, this is not always the practice, and is a potential source of problems for the student. I think it's best to mention this in the article.

I'm trying to find some good sources for this right now, and I'll add them in when I get them. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 19:56, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Everything I've read on this point suggests that this problem is quite rare, especially in the most common skip, which is just a single grade. The difference between a socially typical nine-year-old and a socially typical ten-year-old is smaller than the differences between all the ten-year-olds in a regular classroom. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:06, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

With no supporting evidence provided, should the section on social maturity be removed or revised? Scottkacey (talk) 15:07, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

POV problems[edit]

This article reads too much in favor of grade skipping without even discussing potential drawbacks. Powers ^T 19:27, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Am adding a section on potential drawbacks, but the main focus will be that drawbacks are minor and some traits are misperceived as being caused by grade skipping. For example social problems that the child experiences are not caused or exasperated by grade skipping, or are short-lived. Drawbacks of concern are mainly physical, if the child is much younger then they may not be physically capable of executing all higher grade tasks. Example: Motor skills in young children may hinder their ability to handle tools like scissors. Otherwise, grade accelerated children are well within the deviation of non-accelerated children. Alexgierus (talk) 18:03, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In higher grades there is often a social or self-esteem price in the beginning as students may leave friends behind or face a fitting-in period in the new class or a catching-up period during which the accelerated student has to make up missing knowlwedge. Studies show that this period is relatively short, shorter in the earlier grades, and the self-esteem ends up improved as the child eventually does catch up and fits in to the new environment. Alexgierus (talk) 18:03, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed this article is loaded with opinion, references to one particular process in a very small area which has not a particularly great reputation for educational outcomes... and on top of that its obviously deeply, deeply wrong to anyone who has actually been through this sort of process. Its offensively wrong. 82.4.20.23 (talk) 16:29, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I know multiple people who skipped one grade, and I know none who think it was bad for them. More to the point, the published research says that it's far from being "deeply, deeply wrong". It is generally not harmful for appropriately selected students, just like redshirting is generally not harmful for appropriately selected students, even though some of these older students feel bored with too-easy school work and feel socially disconnected from their too-young classmates. That usually means they weren't appropriately selected, and is not evidence that others shouldn't be allowed to do it. We need to be careful to avoid turning "I had a bad experience" into "it's bad for everyone". WhatamIdoing (talk) 06:07, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

POV problem highlighted as it should be. None of my personal research agrees with much of what is presented. I will find some references. 82.4.20.23 (talk) 16:32, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]