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Gracie Mansion is currently an Art and architecture good article nominee. Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 19:15, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

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Short description: New York City mayoral residence

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A fact from Gracie Mansion appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 16 January 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Gracie Mansion became New York City's mayoral residence after serving as a public toilet and a museum?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/January. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gracie Mansion.

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National Park?[edit]

I don't live in NYC, but I understand that this mansion gives tours? Can someone speak to the logistical data as well as the experience of touring the mansion? 68.42.17.202 (talk) 04:06, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Italicization of the name?[edit]

Is there a reason why Gracie Mansion is (inconsistently) in italics throughout the article? --MicahBrwn (talk) 00:57, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Pest[edit]

User:Vegaswikian added a disambiguation needed tag to the In popular culture entry for The Pest. Just wanted to mention that this was added to the article in 2009 by an IP address user and never referenced AFAIK. I'm going to try and find some more info on it as I consider it suspect. -- Limulus (talk) 15:58, 3 February 2012 (UTC) I'm having trouble finding info on the older movies and I can't find anything that claims the 1997 one had a scene there other than pages that took info from this article, so I'm going to take it out of the article; if anyone can find a ref that supports it, please put it back in. Thanks! -- Limulus (talk) 04:34, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Official city business only?[edit]

User:Jayron32 tagged the following text as needing a citation:

"The house may only be used for official city business. Only visiting public officials and the mayor's family may reside with the mayor at the mansion, even for a single overnight stay. As a result, Mayor Rudy Giuliani was unable to have his then-girlfriend live with him (because they were not married), because it would have violated using a taxpayer-funded home for a private citizen. Giuliani was forced to relocate."

A simple google search ('giuliani gracie mansion girlfriend') found several articles which basically state that the actual issue was regarding Giuliani's marriage:

ABC News (May 21, 2001) "State Supreme Court Justice Judith Gische granted Hanover's request for a restraining order barring Judith Nathan from Gracie Mansion, the mayor's official residence, and its surrounding grounds. Hanover, 51, and Giuliani, 56, continue to live at Gracie with their children, Andrew, 15, and Caroline, 11. Hanover sleeps in the master bedroom while Giuliani sleeps in a guest room. Gische further restrained Giuliani from permitting Nathan, 46, from being "present at any event attended by the children of the marriage or otherwise being in the presence of the parties' children." The case has addressed which sections of the 200-year-old, four-story house are considered to be public or private."

So that part should probably be rewritten, yes. -- Limulus (talk) 18:40, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Lightburst talk 18:32, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Gracie Mansion

... that Gracie Mansion became New York City's mayoral residence after serving as a public toilet and a museum? Source: Strausbaugh, John (December 14, 2007). "In the Mansion Land of the 'Fifth Avenoodles'". The New York Times; "Gracie Mansion Open Monday As City Museum: Structure Built Before Revolution Houses Relics of N. Y. Life Through the Many Phases of Progress New Building Planned Exhibits on View to Public Daily After Tuesday Tell Vividly of City's History". New York Herald Tribune. March 20, 1927. p. 18.
- ALT1: ... that New York City mayor Ed Koch originally did not want to move into Gracie Mansion because it was "like a hotel"? Source: Dembart, Lee (January 8, 1978). "Koch Leaves Gracie Mansion To Live in His Village Apartment". The New York Times.
- ALT2: ... that Gracie Mansion was expanded after New York City's first lady Susan Wagner had to change in a closet? Source: Ennis, Thomas W. (January 12, 1965). "Gracie Mansion Getting 18th-Century-Style Wing". The New York Times.
- ALT3: ... that New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg refused to live in Gracie Mansion but may have donated to its restoration? Source: Ortiz, Erik (March 27, 2012). "Mayor Bloomberg: Mayors shouldn't live in Gracie Mansion". Newsday; Steinhauer, Jennifer (April 28, 2002). "A Worn Gracie Mansion Awaits Its Face-Lift". The New York Times
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hippolyte Triat
- Comment: I can come up with more hooks later.

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 15:56, 8 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Gracie Mansion; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

I prefer to review older nominations but find it impossible to ignore the hook with the public toilet. It is short, clear, and very attention-grabbing. The dirty bit is not in the preview we got here but it is in the cited article; you just have to ~~bypass the paywall~~pay to read it. I applaud you, Epicgenius, for the effort that went into expanding this article. It grew more than fivefold within the past 7 days and is brilliantly written and sourced. I see no neutrality or copyright issues. I love how it links to potential new articles (e.g. Maureen Hackett). I wonder if Susan E. Wagner could be notable if she was as active in society as the article states. The image is lovely in this size; shout-out and thanks to Jim.henderson for it. No doubt we'll be seeing more of this article on the Main Page. Surtsicna (talk) 17:20, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]