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A fact from Grace Ho appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 12 April 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Hong Kong native Grace Ho gave birth to her fourth child, Bruce Lee, while on a one-year tour through the United States with the Mandarin Theatre?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Grace Ho.

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Possible Future Inclusions or Changes[edit]

Place of Death- It is listed in the article that the place of death is Los Angeles, but I remember seeing somewhere that it might have been in the neighboring city of San Francisco. I'm not sure how factual this information is but I thought it should be noted.

Russian Descent?- On a Gwulo forum, there was a somebody who mentioned that in the book "Ho Kom Tong, A man for all seasons" published in 2003, it said that Ho's (Grace's father) last mistress (maybe Grace's mother?) was of Russian descent. Obviously forums often are not the most accurate source of information, and I have found no other sources to back up this claim, so the only reason I am including this note is because the Gwulo user referenced a book, and was not just saying these things with no citations. Still though, until there is solid proof to back up this claim I probably won't include this on the page.

~~Grace's Name~~- In multiple articles, Grace is sometimes listed as He Aiyu or He Bairong. I have not found anything to back this up yet, but this might have been her birth name? If Grace was born in Shanghai, she probably was born with one of these two names, because Grace is a very English sounding name. My theory is that she might have later adopted the name, but I am not sure and have not found anything to back this up. It would still not be too crazy to think that Grace was her birth name though, seeing that she is actually of English descent.

@Johnson524: Regarding her name, He Aiyu is the Pinyin transliteration of her Chinese name 何愛瑜. It is common for Hongkongers to adopt an English-language given name: see Hong Kong name. As for the place of death, there are probably more sources about her than can be found online, though unfortunately I do not currently have access to a physical library. feminist (talk) Слава Україні! 14:43, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Feminist: Thank you for all the information! It certainly would be nice to have access to a physical library containing this much needed information on Grace. Even the book "Ho Kom Tong, A man for all seasons" is no longer being sold anywhere I can find online, nor have I found a digital copy. Johnson524 (talk) 15:56, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnson524: Hi, unfortunately we can't use Baidu Baike as a source for anything, as it is a user-generated wiki. See WP:RSP#Baidu Baike. I don't doubt the correctness of the information, it's just that another source (either a website or a book/journal article) will need to be found. Bruce Lee is a prominent figure, so there is likely substantial coverage of his immediate family in more reliable sources. feminist (talk) Слава Україні! 03:03, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Feminist: Thank you again for the information :) I'm still relatively new to Wikipedia so I was not aware of this. I'll be on the look out for a proper source to re-add this section. Johnson524 (talk) 04:00, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

TV Appearances Section?[edit]

Grace Ho was rarely ever seen on television, only ever appearing once on an interview on Good Night America with Geraldo Rivera shortly after the death of Bruce Lee, with her son Robert Lee. As far as I am aware, this is the only time Grace Ho ever was featured in television, but I still think this fact should somehow be included into the article. Either by making a small new section, or just adding the link to the interview under External Links. https://www.wingchunnews.ca/geraldo-rivera-interviews-with-bruce-lees-mother-in-her-only-tv-appearance/

This has been added by User:Johnson524. SchreiberBike | ⌨ 21:44, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:DATE[edit]

@Evrik:. Why did you do this reversion? The edit summary "date formats per MOS:DATEFORMAT" doesn't explain why those changes were made. In fact, I used the same phrase explaining why I made some of those edits. Thanks, SchreiberBike | ⌨ 05:51, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

When I cleaned up the article, I set all the date values to one consistent set of values that met the requirements of MOS:DATE. For some reason, you chose to change them to a different set. I simply returned them to what they were before you decided to change them. I annotated the change in the edit summary. --evrik ^(talk) 14:34, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Evrik: I think there must be some confusion. The edit I'm asking about changed consistent use of dmy dates to mixed use of dmy and yyyy-mm-dd dates. It also relinked a continent, capitalized "the" in two names, unlinked and changed to the incorrect name of a magazine, changed to mixed British and American English (which could go either way in this article), and changed an ellipsis symbol from three dots to the precomposed character. The edit summary mentioned MOS:DATEFORMAT, which did not explain any of those choices. SchreiberBike | ⌨ 15:12, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - I may have made other changes when I restored the earlier version. Go ahead and tweak the grammatical changes. --evrik ^(talk) 15:26, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    - Done. It does leave dmy dates in most places with mdy in the infobox and yyyy-mm-dd in the wikitext, but I'll leave that to you. SchreiberBike | ⌨ 16:05, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]