Talk:Gospel of John/2020/March

Doctrine of the Trinity

@BatmanWGD: I don't understand why talk about the doctrine of the Trinity belongs in this article. That doctrine was a much later development than the Gospel of John. Whoever wrote that gospel knew nothing of the Trinity. It is simply an anachronism. Tgeorgescu (talk) 14:16, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

@Tgeorgescu: On the basis of the "logos" being used to formulate the ideas of the trinity, partnered with the idea that Jesus claimed to be G-D at one point in his life/ministry, and then claimed to offer a "Holy spirit" entity to his followers upon his death, all within the same text. Perhaps an addendum can be added to mention the fact that the "trinitarian doctrine" was added much later, but when people are reading this article for information, they are expecting to see the historical application of these ideas, less they resolve to another source that is impregnated with beliefs of the Catholic church/organization.

BatmanWGD (talk) 07:02, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

@BatmanWGD: There remains a question of where do you state in the article and how do you properly convey the information. Your previous edit was wanting on both points. The information that the doctrine of the Trinity owes much to the Gospel of John could be stated if properly sourced (WP:MAINSTREAM WP:SCHOLARSHIP), properly conveyed and mentioned in its proper place inside the article. Tgeorgescu (talk) 21:22, 29 March 2020 (UTC)