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Source mining the Independent Article "`Serb Adolf' killer gets 40 years for war crimes"[edit]

- was a former farmhand ✔

- he ran one of the most notorious prison camps in Bosnia✔

- he was imprisoned for 40 years starting 14 December 1999

- As of 15 December 1999, his sentence was the most severe given at The Hague

- guilty of: 15 counts of crimes against humanity; 16 counts of violating the laws of war; BUT one charge of genocide was dropped

- the genocide charge was dropped because it could not establish beyond a reasonable doubt Jeslic's intent to "destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group"

- the Judge said Jeslic had been "scornful of his victims, enthusiastic for committing the crimes and inhumane and dangerous in his behaviour"

- he was a Bosnian Serb

- he commanded the Luka camp ✔

- the Luka camp was near Brcko in north Bosnia ✔

- the indictment portrayed Jelisic as a cold-blooded, ruthless murderer

- he was alleged to have beat an elderly Muslim man to death with a metal pipe, a shovel, and a wooden stick after dragging him out from the hangar building of the Luka camp ✔

- confessed to murders of >=12 Bosnian Muslims and Croats during May 1992

- May 1992 was when the ethnic cleansing in north Bosnia was at its most intense point

- prosecutors at the ICTY claimed he killed "well over 100 people"

- the court suggested he get psychiatric help ✔

- When the sentence was provided, Jeslic appeared strained, but the man made no comment

- Jeslic's lawyer announced that an appeal would be attempted

- the previous longest sentence was that of Dusan Tadic ✔

- Jeslic's case was considered important in atrocity trials for setting a high standard of evidence for genocide

Jlevi (talk) 21:27, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SOURCEMINE on "TROOPS CAPTURE 'SERB ADOLF' FOR BOSNIAN WAR-CRIMES TRIAL"[edit]

- US troops did the capture✔

- this was the first time US troops captured a Bosnian war criminal ✔

- he was accused of at last 16 murders of Muslims

- the troops were in unmarked vans

- the capture occurred in Bijeljina✔

- they captured a former concentration camp commander

-Jelisic styled himself a "Serb Adolf"

- the troops captured Jesilic by surrounding the apartment✔

- the capture occurred without incident✔

- after capture, he was first moved to a US military base at Tuzla✔

- he was immediately flown to The Hague✔

- planning was done in advance✔

- the action was taken during a week in which human rights groups were pressuring the Clinton administration to use US troops to bring in some of the dozens of indicted war criminals still at large✔

- in July 1997 the US gave British troops backup support

- in the July case, one Serb was shot and killed, while another was successfully captured

- in December 1997 U.S. troops gave backup support to Dutch forces

- in the December case, two Croats were captured

- under the 1995 Dayton peace accord, the Serb Republic and Croat-Muslim federation are required to surrender war criminals

- Jeslic was charged with genocide and crimes against humanity

- Jeslic's charges were made due to reports of systematic murder and abuse of Muslims detained in Brcko and Luka

- Jeslic reported no remorse or regret in an interview on Dutch radio

- He said, "I never used knives to kill people. . . . That's why God invented the pistol."

- This was why he slept well

Jlevi (talk) 03:20, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Language choices?[edit]

Hey @2600:1700:dfe0:9ac0:8d94:3507:f8a0:39b2:, mind explaining your reasoning for your changing Muslim-> Bosniak? I'm totally open to it if it's the preferred term, as I'm just going by the language in the referenced source. Jlevi (talk) 02:38, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Apparent violation of WP:UNDUEWEIGHT[edit]

It seems very odd to me that in the "War" section of the article, more than twice as much is said defending his character as is said describing the war crimes for which he'd eventually be convicted. The progression of the section is absurd. "He volunteered to join the Republika Srpska police force and was sent to Brcko police station." "He commanded the most notorious prison camp of the war." "Forget about all that, here's all these people he knew describing what a great person he was!" "Oh, and he called himself Serb Hitler." WTAF‽ It would seem to me that the whole section needs to be rewritten, this is a blatant violation of WP:UNDUEWEIGHT. – Stuart98 ( Talk • Contribs) 05:42, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]