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Confused over connection[edit]

I don't understand the connection between the last section ("The Conversion of the Jews") and the theme of this article.

Admittedly, I did not read the book. But shouldn't the article be written for people who haven't read the book (too)?

--Philopedia 12:05, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"The Conversion of the Jews" is one of the several short stories in this book (which is an anthology of short stories and one novella titled "Goodbye, Columbus"). --GHcool 19:09, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

source on The Conversion of the Jews[edit]

Can anyone come up with a source for that poem? --Sammermpc 05:20, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The ultimate source for the title Conversion of the Jews is in the New Testament. Paul writes in the letter to the Romans (Romans 11:25-26) "For I don't desire you to be ignorant, brothers, of this mystery, so that you won't be wise in your own conceits, that a partial hardening has happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in, and so all Israel will be saved." Commonly interpreted that just before Jesus Christ returns, there will be massive conversions of Jews to Christianity.

This is probably Marvell's inspiration for the line in his poem, and for Roth's story title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.145.81.252 (talk) 17:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have never heard the exact expression used in Christianity. Christians have various theories about what will happen at the end of the world. I suspect it was a common expression at the time of Marvel, meaning "something that is not going to happen any time soon." I will tweek the wording of the article a little. Redddogg (talk) 18:52, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot 15:14, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Adding trivia item[edit]

I added a "note" on the statue of Columbus in the park across from the Newark Library, which upon reflection, was rightly deleted. It contained some factual errors. Nonetheless, I think this is an interesting fact to know about the book, especially considering the academic debate about the title (which you can find in the Norton Anthology to the Short Novel, for example.) To those of us who know Newark, the statue of Columbus is an "in joke" about the book. I thought I'd share it with a wider audience. Perhaps just adding a trivia note would work, but I leave it up to others to decide. Cheers.

--User:Train60 12:08 PM 13 November 2007 —Preceding comment was added at 17:29, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A very proper use of Wikipedia and the Discussion page. Preserve anomalous facts and hunches here. Future scholars may find them unexpectedly important. Profhum (talk) 00:28, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]