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Indian-style goatee[edit]

The so-called 'indian-style goatee' is no more than a simple box beard, and should not be displayed on this page. --Tolken 11:49, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

then box beard should have a page, and this page should refer to it. 71.190.66.244 (talk) 16:14, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Entry phots not helpful[edit]

According to the entry, none of the photos featured on the page are true goatees! After reading the entry, I guess I still don't understand what a true goatee is. Is it *just* having hair on your chin (with no moustache)?

--68.103.154.140 03:12, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

yeah, those shots are some extreme examples. are there no free pics of "normal" goats? maybe something of adam savage or something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.129.145.210 (talk) 19:45, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup[edit]

I've removed some photos whose only value were vanity, cleaned up the article a bit, removed some speculation and generally (I hope) improved the article. If anyone wants to tackle the task of finding some good off-line references that would probably be the next idead step. I'm sure there are some excellent books on the history of just about any facial hair style. -Harmil 15:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

File:Dorus Rijkers.JPG

Dorus Rijkers wearing a goatee

This is becoming a vanity page[edit]

These pictures aren't necessary. I'm assuming in most cases, they're of the photographer themself. If no one objects in the next day or so, I'm a-gonna remove 'em. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.41.47.250 (talk • contribs) 20:36, 24 March 2007

A more idealized or archetypal example would be better, for example a line drawing, or even a very high quality studio photo. Most of these so called examples are scrawny or crooked, or not very common variants of a goatee. The goatee is a classic facial hair style that can look good, we need an image that reflects that. Whitebox 21:28, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It turns out the the image in the upper right corner (Art_dehoyos.jpg) doesn't even have a copyright tag so it will go away in a few days on it's own. If you want to improve the page consider making an account first, it's really easy. Also http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Goatee has a selection of potential source images to edit or use. Whitebox 21:34, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Links[edit]

The "Goatee.com" site is questionable at best. It's FAQ includes a lot of personal preferences presented as fact...not the least of which being that if you have a goatee, you should try to avoid doing business in Japan because you will be viewed as "barbaric". I think the link should go. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.168.252.101 (talk • contribs) 01:09, 30 May 2007

Dorus Rijkers: a great example of a goatee[edit]

Dorus Rijkers is a great example of an early goatee-carrier. -The Bold Guy- 12:09, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Evil Goatees?[edit]

Would it make sense to mention on this page that Goatees are often used to denote evil characters in certain types of fiction? To me, it seems like it's relevant enough to include on this page. However, I'm not really sure how to source this information, so I've refrained from adding it to the page for now. --Mediocre 20:01, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article Mirror, Mirror (Star Trek) might give you ideas. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 12:55, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mirror Universe[edit]

The Goatee is very much iconic of the mirror universe, an element of Star Trek which has reached wide recognition. It is extremely likely that this information would be of interest to those researching Goatees who were not already aware of this fact. I therefore propose that a link to Mirror Universe does belong under See Also, and I'm going to go ahead and restore the link pending further discussion on this page. BoyliciousDarian (talk) 17:24, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

French beard[edit]

Copied the below from the reference desk archive:

"French beard" is a common name for goatee in India. Was the slang introduced by the British? Is it prevalent throughout the Commonwealth? Jay (talk) 10:05, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can't remember hearing it in Australia. It is not in OED; and since it does appear here in an online dictionary of Indian English, I suspect that it is confined to India.

–_⊥^{¡ɐɔıʇǝo}Noetica!^T– 11:36, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

When I read French beard, the image that came to mind matched the description in the goatee article of the "musketeer" style of beard. So I don't think it is hard to image the connection of the term French beard with these subtypes of goatee. Rmhermen (talk) 21:56, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jay (talk) 10:58, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Google goatee[edit]

If you google (images) for goatee, you will see mostly people who have the mustache. This fact must be reflected on this page, it's not the page of "what we wish", it's a page of "what is", and that's how the word goatee is used. A simple disambiguation to Van Dyke would be fine, but punishing the people who come here looking for information is silly. 71.190.66.244 (talk) 16:16, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

History Section Lacks Citations[edit]

Although I believe these sections to be true, these citations need to be backed up with sources, both from Literature and News. Yoshiman6464 (talk) 02:03, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Goatee images?[edit]

I restored the goatee images that were historical in nature, but not the ones that looked user-submitted. Is there a policy or manual of style reason why we don't want the image gallery? I thought those French line drawings weren't bad either. Andre🚐 03:58, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]