Talk:Glencoe II

Glencoe's racing record

TWO YEARS: 1866-1867 Starts 2: 1-0-1-0

3rd-7 4/05/1867. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC Australian Champagne Stakes 5f. 8.10. 1.05.5. -- Fireworks 8.10 3/1 1st 1st-8 9/05/1867. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC Produce Stakes (G1) 8f. 8.4 1.52.0. 5/2EF. Camilla 8.4 4/1 2nd

THREE YEARS: 1867-1868 Starts 16: 5-4-2-5

DH 3rd-7 31/08/1867. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Australian Derby Stakes 12f. 8.10. 2.48.0. 4/1. Fireworks 8.10 6/4F 1st 2nd-7 5/09/1867. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Spring Metropolitan Maiden Plate 12f. 7.6. 2.44.0. -- Fireworks 7.13 1/1F 1st 2nd-5 6/09/1867. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC Mares' Produce Stakes 10f. 8.12. 2.17.5. 6/4. The Italian 8.7 1/1F 1st 4th-27 31/10/1867. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Melbourne Cup 16 6.4. 3.39.0. 12/1. (Sydney) Tim Whiffler 8.11 5/2F 1st PU-4* 1/11/1867. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Royal Park Stakes 16f. 6.10. 3.54.0. 1/1F. Warwick 9.9 1st 1st-3 1/11/1867. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Corinthian Cup 12f. + a distance 8.12. 3.08.0. 4/6F. Strop 11.5 2nd PU-7* 2/11/1867. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Queen's Plate 24f. 6.10. 5.48.0. 3/1. (Sydney) Tim Whiffler 10.1 1/1F 1st Unpl.-15 30/11/1867. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Duke of Edinburgh Stakes 12f. + a distance 7.3. 2.56.0. -- Tim Whiffler 10.1 2/1F 1st 2nd-6 30/11/1867. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Galatea Stakes 16f. 6.10. 3.43.0. -- Fireworks 6.10 1st 1st-2** 13/04/1868. Homebush, near Sydney, NSW, AUS County Stakes Abt 10f. 8.12. -- 4/5F. Vanderdecken 7.12 5/2 2nd 1st-5 14/04/1868. Homebush, near Sydney, NSW, AUS Corinthian Cup Once round + a distance 9.7. 3.14.0. 1/2F. Barebones 11.7 2nd 1st-3 25/04/1868. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Renewal of the (Australian) St Leger Stakes 14f. 8.10. 3.30.0. 4/5F. Fireworks 8.10 2nd 6th-11 30/04/1868. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Sydney Cup 16f. 7.6. 3.40.0. 3/1. The Barb 8.12 4/1 1st 2nd-3 1/05/1868. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Autumn Bruie Stakes 10f. 9.3. 2.20.0. -- Fireworks 9.4 1/3F 1st 1st-5 1/05/1868. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Corinthian Stakes 10f. 9.7. 2.24.0. 1/3F. Newington 11.10 2nd 3rd-11 2/05/1868. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Forced Hcp -- 8.12. -- 6/4F. Carnation 7.2 1st

• Results for both these races show Glencoe as having "bolted"

• • Orlando won by a head, Glencoe being second, but a protest was entered by Mr. Tait against Orlando being declared the winner, on the ground that the horses had not gone the right course. The stewards, after deliberating, decided that the race was null and void, and that it should be run over again. For the second bout neither Orlando nor Kingfisher started, and Glencoe cantered home, an easy winner, in front of Vanderdecken

FOUR YEARS: 1868-1869 Starts 12: 7-3-0-2

1st-3 5/09/1868. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Derby St Leger Handicap 16f. 9.3. 3.56.0. 4/5EF Orlando 7.12 4/5EF 2nd Unpl-11 10/09/1868. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Great Metropolitan Stakes 16f. 8.7 3.37.0. -- The Barb 9.10 6/4F 1st-25 5/11/1868. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Melbourne Cup (G1) 16f. 9.1. 3.42.0. 10/1. Strop 7.10 20/1 2nd 1st-15 6/11/1868. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Spring Handicap 10f. 9.0. 2.17.0. 2/3F. Paddy's Land 7.0 cd 7.2 2nd 1st-4 6/11/1868. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Handicap for Four-Year-Olds 16f. 9.0. 3.53.0. 1/5F. Phosphorus 6.0 2nd 1st-6 7/11/1868. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS All Aged Stakes 8f. 9.0. 1.51.0. Any odds on Sir Solomon 9.5 2nd 1st-4 7/11/1868. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Queen's Plate 24f. 9.3. 5.53.0. 2/3F. Tim Wihffler 10.4 2nd 2nd-4 1/01/1869. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Port Phillip Stakes 24f. 9.0. 5.46.0. -- The Barb 9.9 1/2F 1st 2nd-5 2/02/1869. Launceston, TAS, AUS Champion Cup 24f. 8.6. 5.58.0. 1/1F. Strop 9.2 5/1 1st Unpl-16 29/04/1869. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Sydney Cup 16f. 9.10. 3.40.0. -- The Barb 10.8 3/1F 1st 1st-4 30/04/1869. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS All Aged Stakes (G1) 8f. 8.12 cd 8.13 1.46.0. 1/1F. Tim Whiffler 9.4 2nd 2nd-5 1/05/1869. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Queen's Plate 24f. 9.7. 5.56.0. 1/10F (bktd) The Barb 9.12 1/10F (bktd) 1st

FIVE YEARS: 1869-1870 Starts 11: 4-2-1-4

1st-3 9/09/1869. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Ladies' Cup 8f. 9.5. 1.50.0. 1/3F. Phoebe 9.0 2nd 1st-4 10/09/1869. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Craven Plate 10f. 9.5. 2.19.0. 6/4. Tim Whiffler 9.8 1/1F 2nd PU-3* 11/09/1869. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Randwick Plate 24f. 9.9. 3.49.5. 1/2F. Tim Whiffler 10.1 1st 1st-9 11/09/1869. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Forced Handicap 10f. 10.5. 2.17.0. -- Poison 7.2 2nd 1st-6 31/10/1869. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Melbourne Stakes (G1) 10f. 9.6. 2.22.0. Any odds on Freetrader 9.3 1st Unpl-5 31/10/1869. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Essendon Stakes 16f. 10.9. 3.51.0. 1/3F. Warrior 9.6 1st 2nd-3 4/11/1869. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Railway Stakes 10f. 10.7. 2.21.0. 1/3F. The Baron 8.11 1st 3rd-3 5/11/1869. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Royal Park Stakes 16f. 9.9. 3.53.0. 1-3 f Peeress 8.9 1st Unpl-13 4/12/1869. Ballarat, VIC, AUS Sutton Handicap 8f. 10.5. 1.49.0. 4/1. Farmer's Daughter 6.5 5/1 1st Unpl-12 11/03/1870. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Handicap Plate 8f. 9.2. 1.47.0. 3/1. Kestrel 6.10 3/1 1st 2nd-5 12/03/1870. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Town Plate 10f. 9.7. 4.48.0. -- Strop 9.6 1/1F 1st

• Glencoe sulked at the 2½ mile mark and was pulled-up

SIX YEARS: 1870-1871 Starts 5: 1-1-1-2

5th-28 10/11/1870. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Melbourne Cup 16f. 9.12. 3.37.0. 8/1. Nimblefoot 6.3 12/1 1st 2nd-3 11/11/1870. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Royal Park Stakes 16f. 9.12. 3.45.0. -- Tim Whiffler 9.12 4/6F 1st 1st-5 12/11/1870. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS All-Aged Stakes 8f. 9.8. 1.49.0. 4/5F. Romula 7.0 2nd Unpl-13 2/12/1870. Ballarat, VIC, AUS Ballarat Handicap 12f. 9.12. 2.45.0. 12/1. Flying Dutchman 7.5 10/1 (1st PP) DQ 3rd-12 3/12/1870. Ballarat, VIC, AUS Sutton Handicap 8f. 8.12. 1.48.0. 4/1EF. Blondin 6.8 5/1 1st

SEVEN YEARS: 1871-1872 Starts 12: 0-1-2-9

Unpl-8 4/11/1871. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Melbourne Stakes 10f. 9.7. 2.17.0. 7/2. Warrior 9.4 3/1 1st Unpl-23 9/11/1871. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Melbourne Cup 16f. 9.8. 3.39.0. -- The Pearl 7.3 100/1 1st 3rd-3 10/11/1871. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Royal Park Stakes 16f. 9.12. 3.40.0. -- Warrior 9.9 1/1EF 1st Unpl-5 11/11/1871. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS All-Aged Stakes 8f. 9.8. 1.51.0. -- Argus Scandal 4.9 cd 6.5 1st Unpl-12 30/11/1871. Ballarat, VIC, AUS Ballarat Cup 18f. 42 yds. 8.10. 4.14.0. 10/1. The Baron 7.5 10/1 1st Unpl-14 1/12/1871. Ballarat, VIC, AUS Ballarat Handicap 12f. 8.12. 2.42.25. -- The Ace 6.8 100/40F 1st 9th-13 1/01/1872. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Midsummer Handicap 14f. 8.7. 3.10.0. -- Valentine 7.6 4/1 1st 2nd-10 22/02/1872. Geelong, VIC, AUS Geelong Handicap 12f + a distance. 8.0. 2.59.0. 10/1. Flying Scud 5.10 2/1F 1st 7th-8* 8/03/1872. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Australian Cup 18f. 8.0. 4.12.0. 15/1. Flying Dutchman 7.5 4/1 DH 1st 4th-6 23/05/1872. Adelaide, SA, AUS Town Plate 12f. 10.4. 2.57.0. Heavy, 1/1F. Leonidas colt (2yo) 6.5 5/1 1st 3rd-12 24/05/1872. Adelaide, SA, AUS Queen's Hundred 12f. 10.4. 2.54.0. 3/1. Kingfisher 9.10 2/1F 1st Unpl-11 25/05/1872. Adelaide, SA, AUS Autumn Handicap 16f. 9.7 3.53.0. 5/1. Saladin 8.10 2/1 1st

*There were two run-offs between dead  heaters Flying Dutchman and Slaadin. The first run-off resulted in a second  dead heat in a time of 4.15.0. In the second run-off Flying Dutchman 4/6F  beat Saladin by a long neck time also in a time of 4.15.0. 203.221.62.110 (talk) 10:01, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Glencoe's racing record

TWO YEARS: 1866-1867 Starts 2: 1-0-1-0

3rd-7 4/05/1867. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC Australian Champagne Stakes 5f. 8.10. 1.05.5. -- Fireworks 8.10 3/1 1st 1st-8 9/05/1867. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC Produce Stakes (G1) 8f. 8.4 1.52.0. 5/2EF. Camilla 8.4 4/1 2nd

THREE YEARS: 1867-1868 Starts 16: 5-4-2-5

DH 3rd-7 31/08/1867. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Australian Derby Stakes 12f. 8.10. 2.48.0. 4/1. Fireworks 8.10 6/4F 1st 2nd-7 5/09/1867. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Spring Metropolitan Maiden Plate 12f. 7.6. 2.44.0. -- Fireworks 7.13 1/1F 1st 2nd-5 6/09/1867. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS AJC Mares' Produce Stakes 10f. 8.12. 2.17.5. 6/4. The Italian 8.7 1/1F 1st 4th-27 31/10/1867. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Melbourne Cup 16 6.4. 3.39.0. 12/1. (Sydney) Tim Whiffler 8.11 5/2F 1st PU-4* 1/11/1867. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Royal Park Stakes 16f. 6.10. 3.54.0. 1/1F. Warwick 9.9 1st 1st-3 1/11/1867. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Corinthian Cup 12f. + a distance 8.12. 3.08.0. 4/6F. Strop 11.5 2nd PU-7* 2/11/1867. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Queen's Plate 24f. 6.10. 5.48.0. 3/1. (Sydney) Tim Whiffler 10.1 1/1F 1st Unpl.-15 30/11/1867. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Duke of Edinburgh Stakes 12f. + a distance 7.3. 2.56.0. -- Tim Whiffler 10.1 2/1F 1st 2nd-6 30/11/1867. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Galatea Stakes 16f. 6.10. 3.43.0. -- Fireworks 6.10 1st 1st-2** 13/04/1868. Homebush, near Sydney, NSW, AUS County Stakes Abt 10f. 8.12. -- 4/5F. Vanderdecken 7.12 5/2 2nd 1st-5 14/04/1868. Homebush, near Sydney, NSW, AUS Corinthian Cup Once round + a distance 9.7. 3.14.0. 1/2F. Barebones 11.7 2nd 1st-3 25/04/1868. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Renewal of the (Australian) St Leger Stakes 14f. 8.10. 3.30.0. 4/5F. Fireworks 8.10 2nd 6th-11 30/04/1868. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Sydney Cup 16f. 7.6. 3.40.0. 3/1. The Barb 8.12 4/1 1st 2nd-3 1/05/1868. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Autumn Bruie Stakes 10f. 9.3. 2.20.0. -- Fireworks 9.4 1/3F 1st 1st-5 1/05/1868. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Corinthian Stakes 10f. 9.7. 2.24.0. 1/3F. Newington 11.10 2nd 3rd-11 2/05/1868. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Forced Hcp -- 8.12. -- 6/4F. Carnation 7.2 1st

• Results for both these races show Glencoe as having "bolted"

• • Orlando won by a head, Glencoe being second, but a protest was entered by Mr. Tait against Orlando being declared the winner, on the ground that the horses had not gone the right course. The stewards, after deliberating, decided that the race was null and void, and that it should be run over again. For the second bout neither Orlando nor Kingfisher started, and Glencoe cantered home, an easy winner, in front of Vanderdecken

FOUR YEARS: 1868-1869 Starts 12: 7-3-0-2

1st-3 5/09/1868. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Derby St Leger Handicap 16f. 9.3. 3.56.0. 4/5EF Orlando 7.12 4/5EF 2nd Unpl-11 10/09/1868. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Great Metropolitan Stakes 16f. 8.7 3.37.0. -- The Barb 9.10 6/4F 1st-25 5/11/1868. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Melbourne Cup (G1) 16f. 9.1. 3.42.0. 10/1. Strop 7.10 20/1 2nd 1st-15 6/11/1868. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Spring Handicap 10f. 9.0. 2.17.0. 2/3F. Paddy's Land 7.0 cd 7.2 2nd 1st-4 6/11/1868. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Handicap for Four-Year-Olds 16f. 9.0. 3.53.0. 1/5F. Phosphorus 6.0 2nd 1st-6 7/11/1868. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS All Aged Stakes 8f. 9.0. 1.51.0. Any odds on Sir Solomon 9.5 2nd 1st-4 7/11/1868. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Queen's Plate 24f. 9.3. 5.53.0. 2/3F. Tim Wihffler 10.4 2nd 2nd-4 1/01/1869. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Port Phillip Stakes 24f. 9.0. 5.46.0. -- The Barb 9.9 1/2F 1st 2nd-5 2/02/1869. Launceston, TAS, AUS Champion Cup 24f. 8.6. 5.58.0. 1/1F. Strop 9.2 5/1 1st Unpl-16 29/04/1869. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Sydney Cup 16f. 9.10. 3.40.0. -- The Barb 10.8 3/1F 1st 1st-4 30/04/1869. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS All Aged Stakes (G1) 8f. 8.12 cd 8.13 1.46.0. 1/1F. Tim Whiffler 9.4 2nd 2nd-5 1/05/1869. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Queen's Plate 24f. 9.7. 5.56.0. 1/10F (bktd) The Barb 9.12 1/10F (bktd) 1st

FIVE YEARS: 1869-1870 Starts 11: 4-2-1-4

1st-3 9/09/1869. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Ladies' Cup 8f. 9.5. 1.50.0. 1/3F. Phoebe 9.0 2nd 1st-4 10/09/1869. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Craven Plate 10f. 9.5. 2.19.0. 6/4. Tim Whiffler 9.8 1/1F 2nd PU-3* 11/09/1869. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Randwick Plate 24f. 9.9. 3.49.5. 1/2F. Tim Whiffler 10.1 1st 1st-9 11/09/1869. Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS Forced Handicap 10f. 10.5. 2.17.0. -- Poison 7.2 2nd 1st-6 31/10/1869. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Melbourne Stakes (G1) 10f. 9.6. 2.22.0. Any odds on Freetrader 9.3 1st Unpl-5 31/10/1869. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Essendon Stakes 16f. 10.9. 3.51.0. 1/3F. Warrior 9.6 1st 2nd-3 4/11/1869. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Railway Stakes 10f. 10.7. 2.21.0. 1/3F. The Baron 8.11 1st 3rd-3 5/11/1869. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Royal Park Stakes 16f. 9.9. 3.53.0. 1-3 f Peeress 8.9 1st Unpl-13 4/12/1869. Ballarat, VIC, AUS Sutton Handicap 8f. 10.5. 1.49.0. 4/1. Farmer's Daughter 6.5 5/1 1st Unpl-12 11/03/1870. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Handicap Plate 8f. 9.2. 1.47.0. 3/1. Kestrel 6.10 3/1 1st 2nd-5 12/03/1870. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Town Plate 10f. 9.7. 4.48.0. -- Strop 9.6 1/1F 1st

• Glencoe sulked at the 2½ mile mark and was pulled-up

SIX YEARS: 1870-1871 Starts 5: 1-1-1-2

5th-28 10/11/1870. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Melbourne Cup 16f. 9.12. 3.37.0. 8/1. Nimblefoot 6.3 12/1 1st 2nd-3 11/11/1870. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Royal Park Stakes 16f. 9.12. 3.45.0. -- Tim Whiffler 9.12 4/6F 1st 1st-5 12/11/1870. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS All-Aged Stakes 8f. 9.8. 1.49.0. 4/5F. Romula 7.0 2nd Unpl-13 2/12/1870. Ballarat, VIC, AUS Ballarat Handicap 12f. 9.12. 2.45.0. 12/1. Flying Dutchman 7.5 10/1 (1st PP) DQ 3rd-12 3/12/1870. Ballarat, VIC, AUS Sutton Handicap 8f. 8.12. 1.48.0. 4/1EF. Blondin 6.8 5/1 1st

SEVEN YEARS: 1871-1872 Starts 12: 0-1-2-9

Unpl-8 4/11/1871. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Melbourne Stakes 10f. 9.7. 2.17.0. 7/2. Warrior 9.4 3/1 1st Unpl-23 9/11/1871. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Melbourne Cup 16f. 9.8. 3.39.0. -- The Pearl 7.3 100/1 1st 3rd-3 10/11/1871. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Royal Park Stakes 16f. 9.12. 3.40.0. -- Warrior 9.9 1/1EF 1st Unpl-5 11/11/1871. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS All-Aged Stakes 8f. 9.8. 1.51.0. -- Argus Scandal 4.9 cd 6.5 1st Unpl-12 30/11/1871. Ballarat, VIC, AUS Ballarat Cup 18f. 42 yds. 8.10. 4.14.0. 10/1. The Baron 7.5 10/1 1st Unpl-14 1/12/1871. Ballarat, VIC, AUS Ballarat Handicap 12f. 8.12. 2.42.25. -- The Ace 6.8 100/40F 1st 9th-13 1/01/1872. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Midsummer Handicap 14f. 8.7. 3.10.0. -- Valentine 7.6 4/1 1st 2nd-10 22/02/1872. Geelong, VIC, AUS Geelong Handicap 12f + a distance. 8.0. 2.59.0. 10/1. Flying Scud 5.10 2/1F 1st 7th-8* 8/03/1872. Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS Australian Cup 18f. 8.0. 4.12.0. 15/1. Flying Dutchman 7.5 4/1 DH 1st 4th-6 23/05/1872. Adelaide, SA, AUS Town Plate 12f. 10.4. 2.57.0. Heavy, 1/1F. Leonidas colt (2yo) 6.5 5/1 1st 3rd-12 24/05/1872. Adelaide, SA, AUS Queen's Hundred 12f. 10.4. 2.54.0. 3/1. Kingfisher 9.10 2/1F 1st Unpl-11 25/05/1872. Adelaide, SA, AUS Autumn Handicap 16f. 9.7 3.53.0. 5/1. Saladin 8.10 2/1 1st

*There were two run-offs between dead  heaters Flying Dutchman and Slaadin. The first run-off resulted in a second  dead heat in a time of 4.15.0. In the second run-off Flying Dutchman 4/6F  beat Saladin by a long neck time also in a time of 4.15.0. 203.221.62.110 (talk) 10:02, 8 October 2023 (UTC)