Talk:General Butt Naked

PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN

What I said, n00bs — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.68.107.30 (talk) 18:21, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

You are going to have to be a bit more specific. I have no idea what you are talking about, dipsh*t. Dougy05050 (talk) 13:03, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

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On April 28, 2008 Joshua signed the movie rights to his life story over to Justin Fornal also known as Baron Ambrosia and Fornal Films LLC. Fornal Films LLC is most notable for the sci-fi cult film Canzo Empyrean and culinary adventure show Bronx Flavor (Burton77 (talk) 02:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC))

Comments

If a special warfare center is named after him, it's impossible to find any other mention of it than that blog entry. I'm taking it out.

• Fair enough. As an aside, I don't think it would be slander to say so, as I don't think it would necessarily be a negative. But I've been looking for other sources as well, and couldn't find anything, and a blog entry isn't very reliable. That being said, when one reads the blog - if it is a flat-out invention, it's an oddly-placed one, very random... Zafiroblue05 20:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I am still suspicious of this article. If this man actually exists, the only evidence of his bizzare claims being true is that he had said so. A plausible alternative is that he may be engaging in "lying for Christ" - what else could be more persuading than "I have been an insane war criminal, but now Christianity has saved me"? Compare American fundamentalists [1] claiming "I have been a victim and/or perpetrator of satanic ritual abuse, but now ..." - you get the idea. - Mike Rosoft 16:18, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Take a look here or here or here. Multiple credible sources - books published major American university's presses, articles in non-tabloid newspapers in South Africa and Scotland - take it at face value. The objection that he is now exaggerating his past for the sake of evangelizing is a good one; to some extent, his exaggerating is probably likely.

But I think it is highly unlikely that he doesn't exist at all, and the colorful nickname he received is at least one example of an outside source (the nickname had to come from somewhere, and wouldn't have been invented by a Christian evangelist or after-the-fact sensationalist reports - it's too good!). I think it's clear that he existed and was a particularly crazed warlord, as warlords go. The details could be incorrect, and I'm marking them more clearly as just claims. But there's at least basis of truth here that one can't deny, IMO.

In addition - if the sources say the stories are true, which they do, it's original research to say that they're NOT true. All we have to go on is what other people say, not what WE say. zafiroblue05 | Talk 19:49, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

(On that basis, I'm going to remove the verify tag. The article's claims ARE verfied by outside, independent, trustable sources. zafiroblue05 | Talk 00:23, 24 March 2006 (UTC))

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Another source for the nakedness/wig stuff - possibly could use as reason for why he and his troops dressed the way they did... zafiroblue05 | Talk 03:29, 5 April 2006 (UTC) http://www.slate.com/id/2086490/

The added source of his autobiography is useful, but as mentioned by others it must be kept in mind that his platform is very much that of the "reformed warlord" so there is a motivation behind it, especially given his current occupation as an Evangelical Minister. If anyone could include quotes from the documentary "The Love of Liberty", that would enhance the article with some recent footage of him. I do not think there can any longer be a debate about his actual existence given the numerous cross references in published sources regarding his wartime activities. This article should be monitored for quotations taken from questionable websites. (Published sources are available such as his autobiography and newspaper articles. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.128.195.46 (talk) 19:21, 26 March 2007 (UTC).

the man's a nut... obviously should have been imprisoned in a psych ward somewhere, for all the things he's done or claimed to have done... but there was a short article on him on CNN.com today so I guess he is a real figure... he even walked the streets selling audiocassettes of his surmons at one time. 71.234.109.192 (talk) 11:43, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

It's all true.

It's all true. I just saw it on the History Channel today http://www.history.com/shows.do?episodeId=217237&action=detail

The show is called Heroes Under Fire and the episode is named Escape from Liberia. They had special operatives from the US government on talking about their experiences with the Butt Nakeds and General Butt Naked.

This should be in Ripley's Believe it or Not. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.215.44.189 (talk) 04:57, 21 April 2007 (UTC).

I'll admit, when I first saw this article I thought it had been severly vandalised...--64.230.2.204 (talk) 21:49, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Failed "good article" nomination

This article failed good article nomination. This is how the article, as of May 28, 2007, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?: Pass

2. Factually accurate?: Pass

3. Broad in coverage?: Fail This could be expanded and split into sub-sections

4. Neutral point of view?: Pass

5. Article stability? Pass

6. Images?: Fail Not a single image, there should be an image which is correctly sourced etc.

When these issues are addressed, the article can be resubmitted for consideration. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to a GA review. Thank you for your work so far. — The Sunshine Man 11:36, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Actually, an image is not required for an article to attain the Good Article status, but this particular article fails to meet a whole lot of Good Article criteria, starting from such basic issues as inappropriate tone and style, possible POV problems, dubious use of sources, lead section in need of expansion and many others. PrinceGloria 11:42, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Move to General Butt Naked?

Per the common names policy. I think that very few people know him by his real name. --Banana (talk) 20:25, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, the BBC article says he is best know as General Butt Naked [2] Qrsdogg (talk) 21:18, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Alright I'm going to go ahead and move this. --Banana (talk) 23:22, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

{{edit protected}} This article is move protected (only semi for editing). Based on the above discussion, please move the article to General Butt Naked. --Banana (talk) 23:31, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Please make a request at WP:Requested moves with a link to the above section. Mr R00t ^{Talk 'tribs} 00:38, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the quick response. --Banana (talk) 01:26, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

current residence

On the article it says his family is hiding in ghana, this is not true. He was only in a refugee camp in ghana. he is now back in liberia with a ministry for ex rebels. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.159.0.234 (talk) 18:17, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Joshua Blahyi is a friend of mine, and yes he is currently living in Liberia again. I don't want to say where as people are gunning for him. Doktordoris (talk) 23:17, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Gary Brecher-quote

The Brecher-quote, note 12, is (purportedly) from an email that the pseudonymous Brecher got from a reader. Hardly a proper source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.163.42.246 (talk) 08:42, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

this wiki article states that he believed he could be invisible etc, but in this interview he says, "people" believed he could do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRuSS0iiFyo&feature=endscreen

incorrect?

this wiki article states that he believed he could be invisible etc, but in this interview he says, "people" believed he could do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRuSS0iiFyo&feature=endscreen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.195.157.205 (talk) 19:55, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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This review is transcluded from Talk:General Butt Naked/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: PizzaKing13 (talk · contribs) 20:10, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

I'll take a look at reviewing this article. PizzaKing13 (Hablame) 20:10, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

• Thanks for taking a crack at this, amigo. If we manage to complete this today, it will be the second article I raise to GA status within a day. Looking forward to your comments, señor. Dabberoni15 (talk) 20:26, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Images

• No copyright issues with the image of Samuel Doe.
• Is there no free image of Blahyi on Wikimedia Commons? Or one that can be used under fair use?
  • To the extent of my knowledge, there is no image of Blahyi on Wikimedia Commons that I've found. I'm sure there could possibly be an image of him online which could be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons and then put in the article, however I am unfamiliar with how to do so. Do you think the article seriously needs a photo of Blahyi? If so, I will try to upload an image of Blahyi.
    • I don't think it's necessary, but it would improve the article. So as it is, it should be good.

MoS, structure, coverage, and grammar

Lead

• It doesn't seem that Blahyi held any office, so I would recommend changing the infobox to Template:Infobox military person or Template:Infobox person with the military person infobox embedded in.
  • Sorry, I'm not very familiar with Wikipedia (unfortunately). How would I do the latter?
    • In the infobox person template, go to where it says "| module = ", and there, add the template for military person with "| child = yes" inside of its code. (I think its child at least, if not, try it with "embed" or "embedded").
      • Done
        • I made a slight change, but the article should be good now.
• I've gone ahead and fixed the inconsistent date in the infobox from dmy to mdy.
  • Thanks
• At "also known by his nom de guerre" maybe change it to "better known by his nom de guerre"
  • Done
• At "staged a coup d'état in 1980" mention who Doe deposed.
  • Reworded

Early life

• "officer Samuel Doe" → "Master Sergeant Samuel Doe"
  • Done

Military career

• At "Blayhi stated that", add a colon to the end.
  • Done
• At "the Devil informed him "that he would become a great warrior" I would move the quotation mark to before "a great warrior" as it looks and sounds a bit odd how it is now. This shouldn't affect the meaning of the sentence, though.
  • Done
• Same as above with "captured a town".
  • Done

Religious conversion

• NGO should be spelt out as "non-governmental organization"
  • Done
• What is Spoon Talk? It should half a brief description.
  • Reworded to say what it is instead of a red link to an obscure Liberia talk show, what do you think now?
    • Looks good. PizzaKing13 (Hablame) 23:14, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
• Remove link to Bojan Jancic, as it seems unlikely a page will be created.
  • Done

In popular culture

• Remove link to Kirk Honeycutt, for same reason as above.
  • Done

References

• I moved Websites and Books to a fourth level header, as right now Bibliography technically is empty
  • Thanks

Overall

• No war edits ongoing on the page.
• Sources are reliable.
• Article is well referenced.
• Article follows a neutral point of view.
• Categories are good.
• Good coverage of the topic.
• Well written, no misspellings which I saw.

Very good job. Just a little minor edits to the article and I'll give it a pass for good article. PizzaKing13 (Hablame) 22:21, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

• Also, I'll be occupied between 23:15 to 0:30 UTC, so apologizes if I can't get to this between then.
  • I think I've addressed all your concerns, PizzaKing13. Please respond when you can! :) Dabberoni15 (talk) 23:38, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

@Dabberoni15: The article meets the Good Article criteria, and I have passed this article. Congratulations on getting two articles listed as good articles in a single day! PizzaKing13 (Hablame) 23:50, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Military actions/career

This is a wildly incorrect way to talk about this person. Since his inception, anything that he meaningfully did was a war crime defined by the UN. His entire life was spent destroying villages, making children commit genocide and slaughter people. He is a monster and any form of editing or whitewashing him like he wasn't one of many rogue "warlords" is a mischaracterization of not only military service members, but betrays the droves of people that he murdered.

It is putting an inappropriate tag on a genocidal maniac. Sir Yacob (talk) 23:04, 23 August 2022 (UTC)