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I fail to see the relevance of the reference to the word "fuck" in the pronunciation discussion. If pronounced with the original German pronunciation, "fook-sya" doesn't sound any more like "fuck" than the word "fork" does and I don't believe the possiblity of mispronunciation as "fuck-sya" is what leads most people to say "fyew-sha" instead. Pronouncing Latinized botanical names based on words and names from non-Latin languages is always going to be a problem, and there is simply no rule in botanical nomenclature that such names must be pronounced according to the rules of pronunciation of their original language. MrDarwin 20:17, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It does in UK English! - MPF 17:29, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fook-shia or Fewks?[edit]

In Britan, the name Fuchs is pronounced Fewks, so I think Fewk-sia is just the correct pronounciation. Ali0th 22:11, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Following popular demand, I removed the offending line. Ckerr 13:20, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, if it's a reputable source. To me, it sounds like the sort of thing that would be retrospectively thought of--analogous to a backronym. Given the absurdity of many English pronunciations, the fact that "fuchsia" is not pronounced as it should be hardly even needs explanation--for example, did people start pronouncing "colonel" as "kernel" because the first way sounded too much like the lower digestive tract? I doubt it, but it's the sort of thing that could pass as a vaguely plausible explanation. I did a Google search for the pronunciation of "fuchsia", and of the dozen or so pages I looked at, all mentioned Mr Fuchs but not a one mentioned "f@*k". Also, I discovered (m-w.com, among other sources) that "fyewk-sia" is an accepted English pronunciation, which I included in the article. Anyway, thanks for joining the discussion. Ckerr 10:39, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Beware of just-so stories. Also, we are discussing an obscene word, not a profane word, if I'm not mistaken. That said, the etymology of words and names is appropriate content for WP, in my opinion. Walter Siegmund (talk) 15:29, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In the U.S., "fyoo-shuh" seems to be the prevailing pronunciation. (See dictionary.com for corroboration). If someone has a reliable source citation for a different British pronunciation, perhaps it's worth mentioning the differing pronunciations somewhere in the article. To any potential "Americans pronounce it wrong" arguments: fyoo-shuh is undoubtedly less faithful to the German origin Fuchs, but that is how we say it. -Agyle 10:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

According to the OED, fyoo-shuh is also the prevailing pronunciation in England. -- ABehrens (talk) 22:42, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Found mostly in South America—verifiable?[edit]

Is it verifiable that Fuchsias can be found mostly in south america? I am doing a school project and would like to check this little tidbit of information. Thanks,

.:mmmsagent:. —Preceding unsigned comment added by .:mmsagent:. (talk • contribs) 19:33, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is verifiable, the article is a source of reference for a start, as it is intended, and the reference Puttock, A. G., Lovely Fuchsias, Gifford, London, 1959 has an entire chapter dedicated to the history of the discovery of the fuchsia. Good luck with your school assignment HelloMojo (talk) 08:52, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image of F. boliviana[edit]

This image is obstructing part of the Eufuchsia listing. I'm not sure how to correct this without deleting the image, so I was wondering if somebody could correct it, and/or let me know how to do so.

Kumorifox (talk) 17:13, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edibility[edit]

I see that the edible berry of this plant is mentioned in the "Description", but I think it would stand out better if it were moved to its own section. Also, if anyone knows of a reputable source for the edibility of the actual flower then it would be nice to also mention the flowers edibility. --YoDeeKu (talk) 15:10, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Original pronunciation[edit]

Is the original pronunciation actually from the German (/ˈfʊksja/)? Although the flower is named in honor of a German, the name was given by the French botanist Charles Plumier and the French pronunciation is /ˈfyksja/. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ABehrens (talk • contribs) 00:53, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good question. All I ca add is that my wife who is an avid amateur Fuchsia grower in the UK, together with the retail specialists that she uses, all pronounce the word in English as Foo-she-ah but run almost together as two syllables. MartUK2012 (talk) 03:02, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, I now see that I posted in answer to a different question. This is talking about original, not current pronunciation. Could someone help me fix this error, please? MartUK2012 (talk) 03:06, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Link misspelled[edit]

The article's link misspells Fuchsia "fuschia". How to fix that? 184.96.164.180 (talk) 03:33, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted PR[edit]

I deleted the pronunciation respelling (PR). I find the PR in this case to be particularly illogical and ugly, because it use <ew> for /ju:/ when <ew> would logically represent /ɛʊ ~ eʊ/ (if such a diphthong were to occur in English). People know how to pronounce the name anyway. Okay?--Solomonfromfinland (talk) 15:39, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Solomon, I live in the Pacific Northwest, USA, where these plants are wildly popular, as is gardening in general. Occasionally we hear elite gardeners here on television or at nurseries where these are sold by the thousands to pronounce it as it was intended by the original author, roughly fook-see-uh (after Leonhart Fuchs). I agree 100% that this is not the common pronunciation, or even the "correct" one by most standards; but I just wanted you to know there is definitely some controversy surrounding the name, and it would nice when a gardener hears someone on TV or a nurseryman pronounce it oddly if they could come here and get the right one (regular people are not going to learn IPA to do it).

I wonder if you're overcomplicating things with your diphthong theory, since the common pronunciation of the first syllable in fuchsia is exactly identical to the word "few" (not many), and so there is no misunderstanding there. If you did want to get technical, isn't ew exactly prescribed by Wikipedia:Pronunciation respelling key for the IPA juː? This respelling also is good enough to be featured as an example at that main Wikipedia page. --Tom Hulse (talk) 19:15, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Spelling of the plant name Fuchsia[edit]

A number of spelling mistakes are present in some of the pages referenced by this article, including one by the BBC ! For the guidance of editors, it may help you to know that they were named after Leonhart Fuchs (1501–1566). If you can remember " Fuchs ", then simply add "ia" pronounced "ee-yah", the spelling becomes self-evident. MartUK2012 (talk) 02:56, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]