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July 2007[edit]

Could someone put in a section explaining the sudden burst in population. 71.127.193.49 17:53, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not to mention the sudden burst in wealth from "120 years of poverty" to "richest" etc. Sorry, but this article shows why POV is so frowned upon by wiki. Ugh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.238.92.21 (talk) 08:27, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removing BLP Vios[edit]

Do you guys even live near Franklin? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.131.140.115 (talk) 05:56, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to work on finding references, but if we don't have references by Sunday in the Notable Residents section, I'm going to delete the unreferenced ones. Smashville 20:49, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Helped a bit. Leipers Fork has Nicole Kidman, not Franklin, so I removed her from the list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.189.147.101 (talk) 01:03, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio[edit]

I've removed text that was pulled directly from the franklin.gov website. The text was added back in 2007. Copying and pasting from websites is not allowed. Dawnseeker2000 01:10, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why the movie premieres?[edit]

The article mentions that the premieres for "Friday Night Lights" and "Elizabethtown" both were held in Franklin.

Why? Neither film appears to take place in Franklin, nor is Franklin listed as a shooting location in either Wikipedia or IMDB.

Is there some more general film connection in Franklin? If so, should this be mentioned in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dharris (talk • contribs) 18:19, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Garbled Run-on Sentence[edit]

Someone who knows what this sentence is supposed to be saying needs to fix it:

The City of Franklin was founded by Abram Maury, Jr. (1766–1825), who was also a State Senator and is buried with his family in Founders Pointe, October 26, 1799 and was named after Benjamin Franklin,[5] a close friend of Dr. Hugh Williamson, a member of the Continental Congress for whom Williamson County was named.

rowley (talk) 05:35, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Population density incorrect[edit]

62,000 divided by 30 should be over 2,000 persons per sq. mile, not 1,393.Ryoung122 14:15, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not an Advertising Medium[edit]

Statements like "Join us at the town's facebook page" do not belong on Wikipedia. Rhatsa26X (talk) 22:24 12 June, 2011 (CDT)

Ranking in size of cities[edit]

The article on Jackson, TN had claimed it had lost its 7th-place ranking of largest cities in the state to Franklin, but in both the 2010 census and 2012 estimates, Jackson is still larger than Franklin, so keeps 7th place. Any numbers used must be sourced to Census Bureau data, as they are now.Parkwells (talk) 21:44, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Too much marketing and peacock language[edit]

This is supposed to be an encyclopedia article, not a marketing vehicle for realtors. The Lead is too concerned with city "awards"; put most of those in body of article, and if there are no sources, delete them. Characterizations such as "affluent" do not belong in first sentence of Lead - keep in body of article and cite something other than city's own marketing; need comparison of per capita or per household income levels. Clean up grammar and structure of sentences. Many cities in the US have both old and new; this is not so unique. Put the tourist stuff in one section rather than at the beginning. Find sourcesParkwells (talk) 21:41, 11 June 2018 (UTC) to explain what its wealth is based on.Parkwells (talk) 21:41, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reverts[edit]

User:FranklinCityWatcher has removed a paragraph describing the city's history with the Ku Klux Klan from the opening section of the article and has replaced 2016 population estimate figures with uncited numbers from 2018. The numbers are not from the Census Bureau, which won't release their figures until this spring. To avoid getting into an edit war, I would like to hear from the editor his or her rationale for these changes. Other people are welcome to comment as well. --Ken Gallager (talk) 18:14, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, will the Franklin City Watcher please respond here on the talk page when wishing to change the population estimate figure and replace the current opening paragraph with information that appears to have been copied from the city website. Do you have a citation for the 2018 population estimate? Can you present in your own words the information you wish to present about the city? Copying or lightly editing the data from another source is unacceptable, and doing it repeatedly could get you blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copyright violations

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ken Gallager (talk • contribs) 18:40, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request edit 1-MAR-2019[edit]

We request that the lead on this page be rewritten to more closely approximate a Featured Article, specifically that historic events should only be briefly summarized in the lead and their should be more about the contemporary city. I am representing the City of Franklin local Government. Below is the request for proposal.

Extended content

Franklin is the 7th largest city in Tennessee with a population of 78,321 according to population estimates from July 1, 2018 and is part of the Nashville Metropolitan Area.[1] (https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/franklincitytennessee/PST045218 United States Census Bureau, Quick Facts, Franklin city, TN) The City of Franklin was ranked 8th fastest growing city in the nation by the U.S. Census Bureau, growing 4.9 percent between July1, 2016 and July 1, 2017. [2](https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2018/estimates-cities.html United State Census Bureau, “Census Bureau Reveals Fastest-Growing Large Cities, May 24, 2018 ) The median age in Franklin is 38.3, with a median household income of $85,149 [3] The City is located approximately 20 miles south of downtown Nashville and is the county seat of Williamson County, TN. [4]

Cool Springs, a business district within the City of Franklin is home to several fortune 500 headquarters, many in the healthcare industry. [5] (https://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2009/states/TN.html CNN Money, Fortune 500) Franklin is home to a satellite campus of Tennessee’s first community college, Columbia State. It is a two-year college, serving a nine-county area in the Middle Tennessee area. Columbia State opened their first campus in Columbia, TN in 1966, they opened the Williamson/Franklin campus later near Franklin High School, but built and opened a brand new Franklin campus in 2016.[6] (https://www.columbiastate.edu/athletics/news/2014/07/22/columbia-state-breaks-ground-on-williamson-campus)

The Harpeth River flows through the City of Franklin and has several canoe access points within City parks. The river is popular to fish and paddle.[7] [8] Franklin has more than 700 acres of park land divided into 16 parks that include historic parks, passive parks and athletic fields.[9] The City of Franklin was founded October 26, 1799 by Abram Maury Jr. who was also a State Senator and named after Benjamin Franklin, a close friend of Dr. Hugh Williamson, a member of the Continental Congress for whom Williamson County was named.[10]

In 1908 the Interurban railroad (an electric train) was completed and ran from Franklin to Nashville and carried both passengers and freight. The train converted to gasoline in 1942 and ceased operations in 1969.[11]

Downtown Franklin is nationally recognized for historic preservation and is well known for it’s quaint Main Street and is part of the nationally known Mainstreet Program[12] and Civil War tourism. (https://williamsonherit age.org/preservation/, Williamson Heritage Foundation Preservation Program. ) In 1864 the Battle of Franklin took place. Community leaders have preserved several landmarks including the Carter House, Carnton Plantation, and several portions of the battlefield over the last 15 years.[13] The town square is home to a confederate monument that was erected in 1899 on the 35th anniversary of the Battle of Franklin by the United Daughters of the Confederacy. [14] In the last couple years a group of pastors and historians along with City government have moved to tell the “Fuller Story” about the Civil War to include the experience of African Americans in the City. Historic Markers will soon be placed in the town square telling the stories of a Market House where slaves were sold, Reconstruction after the civil war, the Franklin Riot of 1867 and the U.S. Colored Troops. There will also be a statue erected near the courthouse of a USCT soldier.[15] The group was inspired by a national tragedy in Charlottesville, Virginia.[16] [17][18]

References

  1. ^ "Tennessee Demographics by Cubit". https://www.tennessee-demographics.com/cities_by_population,. Cubit Planning Inc. Retrieved 1 March 2019. {{cite web}}: External link in |website= (help)CS1 maint: extra punctuation (link)
  2. ^ "United States Census Bureau". United States Census Bureau-Quick Facts. United States Census Bureau. Retrieved 1 March 2019.
  3. ^ "Community Profiles". Williamson Chamber Inc. Williamson Inc. Retrieved 1 March 2019.
  4. ^ "Map Quest Franklin description". MapQuest. Mapquest. Retrieved 1 March 2019.
  5. ^ "CNN Fortune 500". CNN. CNN. Retrieved 27 February 2019.
  6. ^ "Columbia State Breaks Ground on Williamson Campus". Columbia State. Columbia State Community College. Retrieved 1 March 2019.
  7. ^ [www.harpethconservancy.org/programs/recreation/accesspoints "Harpeth Conservancy Recreation"]. Harpeth Conservancy. Harpeth Conservancy. Retrieved 1 March 2019. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)
  8. ^ ) "Trout are back in Harpeth River". Franklin Home Page. Franklin Home Page. Retrieved 1 March 2019. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)
  9. ^ "City of Franklin Parks". City of Franklin. City of Franklin. Retrieved 25 February 2019.
  10. ^ "Franklin Description". MapQuest. MapQuest. Retrieved 28 February 2019.
  11. ^ "Interurban Waymark Sign". Waymarking.com. Waymarking.com. Retrieved 1 March 2019.
  12. ^ "Main Street Program". Williamson Heritage Foundation. Williamson Heritage Foundation. Retrieved 1 March 2019.
  13. ^ "American Battlefield Trust, Restoring a Battlefield". American Battlefield Trust. American Battlefield Trust.
  14. ^ Gregory Wade (September 1,2011). "Franklin's Iconic Confederate Statue". Franklin Home Page. Franklin Home Page. Retrieved 1 March 2019. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
  15. ^ Emily West (February 26, 2019). )history-markers-franklin-public-square/2998466002/ "Final Approval: African-American History Markers will go in Franklin's square". The Tennessean. The Tennessean. Retrieved 1 March 2019. {{cite news}}: Check |url= value (help)
  16. ^ Emily West (January 17, 2019). [(https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/williamson/2019/01/17/franklin-tn-confederate-statue-group-shares-slavery-civil-rights-history/2536980002/ "Franklin Confederate Statue Group shares slavery civil rights history"]. The Tennessean. Gannett. {{cite news}}: Check |url= value (help)
  17. ^ Kerri Bartlett (August 14, 2018). "Three Preachers and a Historian tell fuller story by proposing Civil War monument, markers on slavery". The Williamson Herald. Williamson Herald.
  18. ^ "The Fuller Story". Tennessee Holler Youtube Page. The Tennessee Holler/City of Franklin TN.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by TennesseeTex (talk • contribs) 22:09, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 1-MAR-2019[edit]

  Unable to implement  

  • It is agreed that the current state of the lead section is poor, in that it inordinately focuses on one aspect of the city whilst leaving out passages of text which might go further in satisfying the lead section's summative requirements.
  • The COI editor's response to that problem is equally poor, in that they have proposed text which is insufficiently paraphrased from the source material — much of it being promotional materials taken directly from the City's web portal, with only a cursory attempt at rewriting what was taken.
  • The required changes which are needed are clear. The different sections of the article ought to be summarized and placed into the lead section in order to assist readers in their perusal of the article. This lead section ought to be balanced according to the weight of what reliable sources say about the subject — ideally, a mixture of the good along with the bad and the historical along with the contemporary — all in an effort to achieve an evenly-WP:WEIGHTED article.
  • To begin, I would recommend taking these issues to WikiProject Cities in an attempt to garner assistance and feedback from the editors there.

Regards,  Spintendo  00:20, 2 March 2019 (UTC) The information I provided for the rewrite was researched from many sites, not just the City's web portal. There is only one citation from the City site about the number of parks located in the city. I have posted on the WikiProject Cities talk page for assistance. Also I am not paid by the City to specifically post on Wikipedia, I am an employee of the city.TennesseeTex (talk) 20:00, 6 March 2019 (UTC)TennesseeTex[reply]

I can agree the Lead needs changes, but the content proposed above has its own problems of being overlong and too detailed. Let's ensure that these items are included in the main body of the article, in the appropriate sections (I'm working on this now). With the opening of the National Memorial for Peace and Justice in Montgomery, AL in 2018, I think there is more reason to include a brief reference to the history of lynching in the Leads for Franklin and other places where these took place; for too long this violence was not acknowledged, and it is part of a history contributing to current problems. Parkwells (talk) 18:51, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in Franklin, Tennessee[edit]

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Franklin, Tennessee's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

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The article was edited to remove several instances of information that pertained to Williamson County and not Franklin. I found the tying of county information to the county seat on the Columbia, TN article as well.

I made changes to the introduction section that some others noted. A couple of instances were opinion and rhetorical language. Both Franklin and Columbia had very strange, uncited references to immigration from Kentucky, "purebred livestock", and contributions made by Fisk University which led me to speculate that the article changes were school projects. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MoostTN (talk • contribs) 18:39, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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