Talk:Fox Island

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 07:39, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • ... that each of the three times Fox Island exploded, it could be felt dozens of miles away? Source: "The Fox Island Explosion: The Extraordinary Work of Nitro-Glycerine", "Hercules Powder: A Terrific Explosion at the Lime Kiln Crossing, Detroit River. Perilous Situation of Patrick Collins. Injuries from Flying Boards and Timbers. Peter Boyers' Head and Face Severely Cut. Great Destruction of Window Glass and Houses Shaken to Their Foundations. The Shock Felt at Essex Center, Sixteen Miles Away", "Dynamite Ruins Fox Island Plant, Injuring Two".
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Good Time Women
  • Comment: I can easily come up with other hooks for this, if requested -- there are a lot of mad lad moments with this one. From the artificial island created after a court forbade known madlad Dunbar to store explosives on Fox Island, to the explosion caused by madlads on a fishing boat shooting revolvers at the powder house, to the explosion that was clearly audible all the way across Lake Erie.

Created by JPxG (talk). Self-nominated at 12:55, 5 September 2021 (UTC).[reply]

  • Well sourced, long enough, passes criteria. I actually like the hook, given the notion of an island "exploding" three different times. ViperSnake151  Talk  03:20, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
To T:DYK/P5

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Fox Island (Detroit River)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 20:52, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Comments

  • Lead is unacceptably brief, should summarise all the pertinent aspects of the article.
    • Green checkmarkY Done.
  • " WikiMiniAtlas42°06′21″N 83°08′30″W[1], in" ref after comma.
    • Green checkmarkY Fixed.
  • Don't use USGS without explaining it.
    • Green checkmarkY Fixed.
  • If you insist on that image being right up top like that, you'll need to link all the linkable items in the caption as nothing up to this point apart from Detroit River has been linked.
    • Green checkmarkY Fixed.
  • "in the Detroit River is" link.
    • Green checkmarkY Fixed.
  • "The United States Geological Survey gave..." that's where you add (USGS).
    • Green checkmarkY Fixed.
  • "1851 references to Fox Island give its area as 0.81 acres (0.33 ha); [5][6][7][8][9][10][11] " avoid starting sentences with numerals, don't put space between punctuation and refs, and do we really need seven references for this? At the very least, bundle them up.
    • Green checkmarkY Fixed.
  • "to Sarah Macomb along" any context as to who she was?
    • Gray check markYg Sadly, I don't know; I am pretty sure she is one of the Macombs for whom Macomb County was named, who owned property around that area. I think that it would be possible to track down some sources and write an article on her, but I don't want to draw the parallel without solid sourcing for it.
  • "of Wayne County. The Wayne County' repetitive.
    • Green checkmarkY Fixed.
  • "addition to Sugar, Hickory, " overlinked.
    • Green checkmarkY Fixed.
  • "land on Grosse Ile" overlinked.
    • Green checkmarkY Fixed.
  • "nearby Powder House Island and Stony Island, used Fox" both overlinked.
    • Green checkmarkY Fixed.
  • "ferry landing on Stony Island, approximately" overlinked.
    • Green checkmarkY Fixed.
  • "138,875" over-precise, nearest $1,000 will do.
    • Green checkmarkY Fixed.
  • "channel at Lime-Kiln Crossing".[29" already (red) linked.
    • Green checkmarkY Fixed.
  • "October 1, 1880 edition" comma after 1880.
    • Green checkmarkY Fixed.
  • "brought it safely to Elba Island.[38] " overlinked.
    • Green checkmarkY Fixed.
  • "sturgeon" could link as you already linked perch.
    • Green checkmarkY Fixed.
  • "constructed Powder House Island, would again explode' overlinked and "exploded again".
    • Blue question mark? I usually agree that the "would" formulation is stupid, but I kind of like it here. If you feel strongly about it, I'll change it.
  • "20 short tons' avoid starting sentences with numeral.
    • Green checkmarkY Fixed.
  • "Grosse Ile alone" overlinked.
    • Green checkmarkY Fixed.
  • "known for having good " already said this...
    • Green checkmarkY Fixed.
  • Refs 15, 27, 40 and 47 SHOUTING.
    • Green checkmarkY Fixed.
  • Destub.
    • Green checkmarkY Fixed.

That's all I have. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:09, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Well, here's what I got. jp×g 10:11, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have come up with a brilliant strategy that may allow me to actually do this on my phone. Let's see if it works. jp×g 20:04, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, my strategy did work, but editing on my phone is a huge pain in the ass anyway, so I will just wait until I get home. jp×g 20:08, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sauce[edit]

Found https://meanderingmichiganhistory.weebly.com/lake-sturgeon-and-the-detroit-river---historic-partners.html -- probbo not RS in its own right but does mention "A Detroit Free Press story dated July 12, 1903, revealed the scope of the sturgeon fisheries in the Detroit River. In 1903, many fishermen named Fox Island, a small wooded island near the southern tip of Grosse Ile and the northern end of Bois Blanc, about a mile up the Detroit River from Sugar Island, the best sturgeon fishery in the United States.".

Well golly if only I could go read the free press articles from 1903. Well golly if only I knew the exact month and day.... jp×g🗯️ 17:38, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

jp×g🗯️ 17:56, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Moar: [1]

[2] [3] [4] [5] [6]

page 103, 187, 189, 190: very early history of the island (179x to 1820ish) [7]

p 2797: talks about the digging of the channel and also the big explosion [8]

p19, talks about spawning on islands [9]


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References

  1. ^ "The Passing Parade". Detroit Free Press. Detroit, Michigan. 1965-12-24. p. 24. Retrieved 2024-01-17 – via Newspapers.com.
  2. ^ "Youthful Hunter Accidentally Slain". Detroit Free Press. Detroit, Michigan. 1942-11-13. p. 3. Retrieved 2024-01-17 – via Newspapers.com.
  3. ^ "Cruise Territory? Right Here, Brother". Detroit Free Press. Detroit, Michigan. 1958-08-01. p. 33. Retrieved 2024-01-17 – via Newspapers.com.
  4. ^ "Boat Sinks; 3 Saved from Detroit River". Detroit Free Press. Detroit, Michigan. 1959-08-09. p. 6. Retrieved 2024-01-17 – via Newspapers.com.
  5. ^ "DNR to stock 9.4 million hatchery trout and salmon". Battle Creek Enquirer. Battle Creek, Michigan. 1973-04-08. p. 33. Retrieved 2024-01-17 – via Newspapers.com.
  6. ^ "Notice of letting of drain contract". Detroit Free Press. Detroit, Michigan. 1963-03-07. p. 40. Retrieved 2024-01-17 – via Newspapers.com.
  7. ^ https://books.google.com/books?id=YkmhZ5RuslQC&pg=PA187&dq=%22fox+island%22+grosse+ile&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjOrY2Ih-WDAxXmjYkEHVJtAFwQ6AF6BAhiEAI#v=onepage&q=%22fox%20island%22&f=false
  8. ^ https://books.google.com/books?id=dK5MAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA2797&dq=%22fox+island%22+grosse+ile&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjOrY2Ih-WDAxXmjYkEHVJtAFwQ6AF6BAhgEAI#v=onepage&q=%22fox%20island%22&f=false
  9. ^ https://books.google.com/books?id=WdK4WNIAM1EC&pg=PA19&dq=%22fox+island%22+grosse+ile+%22detroit+river%22&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiTr5jaiOWDAxXxmIkEHW6XBtsQ6AF6BAhMEAI#v=onepage&q=%22fox%20island%22&f=false