Talk:Forty Martyrs of Sebaste

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Unsightly fact tags[edit]

Editor Anthony on Stilts came through and added a horde of tags after several items in the introductory paragraph. Martyrologies aren't critical history. If there are questions as to the veracity of the traditional story, it should be rephrased appropriately with reference to the traditional sources, not spammed or removed. Reasons to question the story can be added to an appropriate place lower in the article. -114.91.66.121 (talk) 14:21, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, I notice the intro paragraph already addresses those concerns. There's no need at all for those tags. -114.91.66.121 (talk) 14:22, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To me, this "story" is as credible as Harry Potter or any other fiction. Would it not be nice to have some indication of lack of credibility, instead of the current indication that this really happened? Something like "according to early Christians, desperate for proof of their religions worth, again used the number 40, and the notorious non-christian Roman army, to make a show of martyr ship with this story".

And besides, this would apply to all articles dealing with religion, unless the facts have been proven by historians or (in the case of Jesus resurrection of his (according to some scholars very practically) brother-in-law Lazarus) scientific experiments/test.

If you look at articles on older, now rebuked religions, this kind of disclaimer on the article to be anything near real life/truth are abundant, but in the equally stupid/fictitious "living" religions, I miss this information.

Wikipedia is about facts - it might be a fact that a story is told, but it must be clear that it is a story - and not make the impression that is a fact that this story really took place in real life. 2A02:AA1:1025:9DDE:4C50:3F17:768F:EF29 (talk) 20:40, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Legio XII Fulminata[edit]

How do we know that The Forty came from Legio XII Fulminata? Is this recorded anywhere in a credible source or is this speculation? Aramgar 21:13, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps mention of the Legio XII Fulminata ought to be moved from the lead to the body of the article. The fact that they were Roman soldiers is sufficient. Speculation on their unit does not seem to me relevant. Aramgar (talk) 17:24, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently Gregory of Nyssa and Procopius say they were of the 'Thundering Legion'/twelfth legion.[1] Maybe it could just be put that they were traditionally held to be from this legion? --131.111.216.251 (talk) 17:19, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In Legio XII's page it mentions Fulminata is properly translated as 'Armed with Lightning.' "Thundering" would be Fulminatrix. May as well reference them correctly if you reference them at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.95.123.136 (talk) 05:53, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sarein[edit]

One version has the relics of the martyrs transfered to a village called Sarein near Zela. What is the source of this? Where is Sarein? Aramgar (talk) 17:29, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Ancient/Katharevousa"[edit]

This are not the same thing. K is a modern attempt to clean up demotic Greek and make it more like Ancient Greek. Where's the optative? Where's the dual? So, is this Ancient, or Katharevousa? Or something else? If anyone ones to argue that these are the same language, let's simply call it Greek. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 12:40, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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