Talk:Fortaleza Airport

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vandalism[edit]

@178.11.197.163: Could you please STOP vandalising this page as I have asked multiple times, it is clear that you are the same person using different IP addresses adding content for your own pleasure that has no significant encyclopedic value, and I have listed the issues below:

  • The abandoned aircraft, none of the aircraft abandoned at the airport are of a significant value the only aircraft that should be noted about is the Lufthansa 737 which I have already added a small paragraph about.
  • Secondly, the over use of images. The article does not need a gallery of 18 images that have no significant value or are of poor quality most of the images are duplicates of the same area of the airport and I have picked 4 that best fit the article please leave them as they are, too many images takes away the effectiveness of the information.
  • Please refrain from adding information without sources

Please, if you have any questions take to this talk page or my own talk page, thanks. CBG17 (talk) 18:48, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Protected Article[edit]

I have semi-protected the article for a while to encourage discussion here about content. Can those involved work out your issues here please and gain a consensus moving forward. MilborneOne (talk) 08:31, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As my early request to discuss resulted in more edit warring I have raised the protection higher. please gain a consensus on the way forward here please. MilborneOne (talk) 09:44, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for protecting the article, MilborneOne. The article has several issues but only a few corrections were made possible because of constant reversions, one of them was the updated of data concerning year 2018 in the infobox. Taking into account the history of reversions and contents of the Talk page (see "vandalism" above, CBG17 is correct in every single item), the problem is not new. Below is a summary of issues that should be corrected: 1) Place in the text of the article the correct full name of the airport. The source is a presidential decree which has not been revoked and therefore remains valid. http://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/leis/1950-1969/L1602.htm. The new concessionary, Fraport, may use as work name "Fortaleza Airport" but the official full name should be stated in the text. Private blogs are not reliable sources. As the article is at the moment, it is fine. 2) Leave accident of flight VASP 168 in the article in conformity to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Airports. Deleting the accident because it is "too old" as stated is not acceptable. This was a major accident in Brazilian aviation and happened upon approach procedures under the authority of Fortaleza airport control tower. As the article is at the moment, it is fine. 3) Access to the airport should have a separate paragraph but this was always deleted. This paragraph is in conformity with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Airports/page_content. 4) The statistics table has no sources but I believe this is Infraero. Ranking however should be deleted because we have a minimum of three ranking categories. Furthermore, there are several important airports in Brazil which are not under the authority of Infraero and might not be taken into account. If Fortaleza is ranked nationwide, all airports in the nation need to be taken into account. 5) The paragraph History needs revision and clean-up as related to notoriety. Same applies to photos. References should be made according to Wikipedia standards. 6) LA flights to VIX ended. Brunoptsem (talk) 10:00, 21 September 2019 (UTC))[reply]
Deleted the terminated LA flight to VIX and two images that do not add to the content of the article. (Brunoptsem (talk) 10:42, 5 October 2019 (UTC))[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 13 March 2023[edit]

+ Aeroporto Internacional Pinto Martins[1][2] ! Year !! Passengers !! % Difference !! Aircraft Movement !! % Difference !! International Guests Poppolitos (talk) 21:48, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Statistics updated to 2022. (Brunoptsem (talk) 13:22, 14 March 2023 (UTC))[reply]
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 22:18, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • What I think should be changed (include citations):

1. Put the old photo, see here https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroporto_Internacional_de_Fortaleza

Done (Brunoptsem (talk) 12:40, 14 March 2023 (UTC))[reply]
The requested image 1998FortalezaAirport-01.jpg cannot be added to the article because of system restrictions. The system responds: 'Sorry, the file cannot be displayed. There seems to be a technical issue.' (Brunoptsem (talk) 13:07, 14 March 2023 (UTC))[reply]

2. Note that Gol has nothing more than a Hub in Fortaleza, it has cancelled several flights. Lost interest financially https://diariodonordeste.verdesmares.com.br/opiniao/colunistas/igor-pires/hub-falho-e-limitado-gol-reduz-pela-metade-voos-em-fortaleza-e-abre-espaco-para-concorrentes-1.3344265

I will check all operating flights within a 1-week span and update G3 destinations accordingly. (Brunoptsem (talk) 12:32, 14 March 2023 (UTC))[reply]

3. As you are aware of the Master Plan for the second phase approved by ANAC in which I suggested in the Ombudsman Offices both of them and of the Ministry of Airports and President Luiz Inácio Da Silva, it is worth paying attention to put a brushstroke of these projects. https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=254008

Thanks for the info. It will be analyzed. (Brunoptsem (talk) 12:51, 14 March 2023 (UTC))[reply]
  • Why it should be changed:

Because, 1. Gol does not have Fortaleza of focus city anymore, from 50 daily supposed flights, it was reduced to only 11. 2. The accident did not happened in airport but at least 100 km away of city. 3. Head Information concise and better organized.

The accident remains in the article. It is not a question of distance but that it was during approach procedures and therefore within the scope of the article as per Wikipedia:WikiProject Airports. This question has been already extensivelly discussed and explained to you. (Brunoptsem (talk) 12:49, 14 March 2023 (UTC))[reply]

90.186.249.181 (talk) 10:08, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Estatísticas". Infraero (in Portuguese). 10 February 2021. Retrieved 15 November 2021.
  2. ^ "Airport Movement". Fraport. Retrieved 4 May 2022.
 Not done for now: Please establish a consensus with editors engaged in the subject area before using the {{Request edit}} template for this proposed change. Actualcpscm (talk) 22:53, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Best Version For Fortaleza Airport[edit]

(copy and paste of article content removed - see Special:Diff/1144629691) 90.186.249.181 (talk) 15:40, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you are trying to suggest an edit to the article, please clearly lay it out in the format "Change X to Y" instead of pasting the entire article with the wanted changes, as this disrupts the flow of the talkpage heavily among other issues. You may find this page helpful. Aidan9382 (talk) 18:53, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(again - see Special:Diff/1144633182) 90.186.249.181 (talk) 15:40, 14 March 2023 (UTC) A can not edit at the article, do it here, because this is the best version ![reply]

Once again, do not repost an entire copy of the article. If you want to remove an entire sourced section, as you seem to be suggesting in your different version for the section Accidents and incidents, you need to at least provide a reason and communicate. Continuing to flood the talk page is disruptive. Aidan9382 (talk) 19:15, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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