Talk:Flash, Staffordshire

Highest

I suspect that Flash is also the highest in GB and probably the UK? Apparently the highest in Scotland is Wanlockhead (1380ft asl). Is there a Welsh contender?? Linuxlad 09:00, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

wanlockhead is 467m so is the highest village in the UK. This needs updated. 84.69.158.94 (talk) 00:29, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Consult the Ordnance Survey map (select "Ordnance Survey" at top right). The whole of Wanlockhead village is clearly below the 450m contour. The Visit Scotland source is wrong. Dave.Dunford (talk) 08:31, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Three Shires Head

I found the detail on 3 shires quite interesting, which is why I added it. We don't have a 3 shires article - perhaps we should. It was presumably useful as a) lonely, b) at the boundary between 3 police jurisdictions - there is a great tradition of police not pursuing miscreants once they leave their area. And of course the penalty for 'coining' was pretty draconian, since it counted as treason. Bob aka Linuxlad 13:51, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Highest village in Great Britain

No definitive sources have been correctly _cited_ to back up the claim that Flash is the highest village in Britain (as opposed to in England) rather than Wanlockhead. Currently the heights given in the Wanlockhead and Flash wiki articles appear to contradict the claim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.105.29.230 (talk) 19:24, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

I assure you I did see the BBC programme in question, although this may not be the best source. The heights given in the article suggest an equal height. Some confusion may be due to uncertainty about how you measure the exact height of a village (particularly one in hilly country). The OS treated it as the highest house in the village. PatGallacher (talk) 19:58, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

If you're looking for definitive sources, the spot heights and contours on the Ordnance Survey maps are plainly visible for all to see:

• Flash http://getamap.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/getamap/frames.htm?mapAction=gaz&gazName=g&gazString=SK0235267181
• Wanlockhead http://getamap.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/getamap/frames.htm?mapAction=gaz&gazName=g&gazString=NS8706512952

Looking at the maps, it seesm hard to sustain any claim that the latter is the highest village in the UK: the village can be seen to lie beneath the 450-metre contour. There is 432-metre spot height in the high part of the village.

Meanwhile, all of Flash village lies above the 450-metre contour, and there are 468m and 471m spot heights at either end of the village street.

I would give the heights of the villages as: Flash 470m, Wanlockhead 390-430m. 82.36.129.101 (talk) 23:42, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I thought I had contributed a photo of the village sign, which gives the altitude as 1510 ft. It looks like I haven't got around to that yet. -- Robert of Ramsor (talk) 16:40, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I have separated the discussion of Flash as the highest village in Britain to make it easier for someone to edit this and include this information with reference to Ordnance Survey maps, etc. This is the main area which needs citations, and I don't have time to sort this topic myself. When the section has been tidied up, we have the option of removing the sub-heading. -- Robert of Ramsor (talk) 19:08, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

The title of highest village should go to Nenthead in Cumbria. The altitude of the highest Benchmark (OS Altitude datum) is given as 473.705m. This can be verified on The OS benchmark Locator site (https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/benchmarks/) searching for the coordinates "NY7843". Additional info on the benchmark, including photo can be found at https://www.bench-marks.org.uk/bm152414. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.65.53.30 (talk) 13:13, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

I don't feel strongly about this essentially subjective claim, but I disagree: the house at Nenthead with the benchmark at 473m is more or less the highest in the village, some 30 or 40 metres above most of the houses along the main street. By contrast, as noted above, the main street in Flash is between 468 and 471m. The main part of Flash is higher than the main part of Nenthead. Even if we take the highest house as our measure, Flash is still higher: there are houses at the west end of Flash village that are above the 475m contour on the OS map. Dave.Dunford (talk) 19:53, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Article restructured

I have re-arranged the layout to create a Table of Contents, and added some additional material, primarily from my sources on Methodist history. I trust the quotations from the history booklet are within permitted use in terms of being only a sample and not the complete booklet. To save writing time, I took this from my own web site, now linked from this article. I need to locate my copy and give the correct title of the booklet. Robert of Ramsor (talk) 16:24, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Highest Village in Britain

Flash might be the third highest village in Britain. Wanlockhead is the highest village in Britain as Scotland is part of The United Kingdom of Great Britain. It’s neighbouring village is the second highest.

Flash is the highest village in England. In this instance Scotland win’s. 194.72.27.113 (talk) 21:54, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Provide a source, and people can debate it. There is evidence that Flash is higher than Wanlockhead further up this talk page. Dave.Dunford (talk) 23:44, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Highest Village

According to other data the highest village in the UK is Warlockhead in Southern Scotland @ 1531 feet. 2A02:C7E:3019:AA00:203F:8520:B9FE:5E66 (talk) 08:26, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Again: provide a source, and people can debate it. There is strong evidence that Flash is higher than Wanlockhead further up this talk page. Dave.Dunford (talk) 12:53, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

https://www.visitscotland.com/info/towns-villages/wanlockhead-p240641

467m so wanlockhead is the higher village. 84.69.158.94 (talk) 00:31, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Look at this map (change style to "Ordnance Survey"). Wanlockhead is not at 467m, which would be halfway up the slope to the south-west of the village. There is a spot height towards the top of the village at 432m, and the entire village is below the 450m contour. Dave.Dunford (talk) 08:28, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Also, see this BBC article: "the highest house in Wanlockhead is 444m (1,457ft)." Looking at the OS map, the only building near Wanlockhead that is at or near 467m is Glengonnar Station on the Leadhills and Wanlockhead Railway, which is at the top of the pass to the northwest, well outside the village. The article concludes: "While Wanlockhead is the highest village in Scotland, it is not the loftiest in the UK. A village called Flash in England's Peak District, near the town of Buxton, is 463m (1,519ft) above mean sea level." Dave.Dunford (talk) 09:07, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

It's second highest

Wanlockhead in Scotland is higher. Scotland is part of the UK/britian is it not? 2A00:23C6:4100:B701:64FA:B37:6B86:C8B7 (talk) 09:10, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Scotland is part of the UK/[Britain] is it not? Yes, but you're missing the point completely. Wanlockhead is lower than Flash and the 1,531 ft elevation for the former is bogus, whatever Visit Scotland and the village sign say. Look at the Ordnance Survey maps for Wanlockhead and Flash. 1,531 feet is 467m, and yet the whole of Wanlockhead village is below the 450m contour (and all of Flash village is above it). There is a spot height of 432 metres (1,417 ft) above most of the houses of Wanlockhead. The only building near Wanlockhead that approaches 467m is Glengonnar Station on the Leadhills and Wanlockhead Railway, which is a mile outside the village, but if you use the highest building as your measure, Flash is still higher – there are houses at the western end of Flash that are above the 475m contour, higher than Glengonnar Station. This is cut and dried. How many times does it have to be pointed out? Dave.Dunford (talk) 18:44, 15 January 2024 (UTC)