Talk:First Lady of North Korea

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Thoughts[edit]

The table runs up against the infobox making it narrow and forcing the content boxes to have lots of line wraps and then empty white space to the right of the table making it fairly smashed. Consider a line break after the infobox.

Maybe there could be a column for how long the tenure lasted so one doesn't have to do the math. There might also need to be research on Kim Song-ae official status as First Lady as they might have just used the words casually without a real position. Also might be some translation concerns as to what they actually called her in Korean vs. how the western press translated it. -- GreenC 14:12, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Page Protection[edit]

I would like to have First Lady of North Korea Redlocked protected for constant disruptive editing, vandalism and false information. Ri Seol-un (talk) 15:51, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If there is an edit you disagree with, suggest you discuss it first on the talk page. You appear to be using multiple accounts, IPs and this newly created account. -- GreenC 15:57, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fist lady is not always first lady[edit]

Regarding this sentence which are you trying to delete:

Although the title infers she is married to the supreme leader of North Korea, some wives of the supreme leaders were historically not given the title at all, and others were delayed for years after the marriage.

This is absolutely required. In just about every other country, the first lady is the wife of the President/Leader. It is a defacto title. However North Korea is unique, the title does not automatically go to the wife. It is variable, if she gets it all, or when she gets it. Thus a clarification is required. Indeed, this article for a long time misleadingly stated that she is the wife of the leader full stop. And you (as an IP) continued to push this completely inaccurate statement. I have attempted to clarify the point, and you have attempted to delete it. If there is anyone engaging in "disruptive editing, vandalism and false information" it is you. Not to mention IP hopping and creating throw away accounts. -- GreenC 16:03, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Further update: per WP:LEAD the lead section should contain a summary of the most important points. Since in almost every other country the first lady is the lady married to the president/leader, this needs to be clarified, it is not always the case in North Korea. It is part of the fundamental definition of what the first lady is in North Korea - it is whoever they say it is, and not based on marriage. -- GreenC 18:39, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Capitaliztion of first lady[edit]

Per MOS:JOBTITLES it is not capitalized. I am talking to myself in an empty room. Anyone listening? Anyone care? Guess not, makes it easy to get the page protected for weeks, months or years - keep those reverts coming. -- GreenC 03:49, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

First Lady is Capitalized. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.221.181.177 (talk • contribs)

According to who? According to Wikipedia style guidelines, it is not capitalized. You imply there is an authority higher than Wikipedia consensus. Since we are on Wikipedia, that is the consensus. If you want to change Wikipedia consensus, start a discussion at the MOS page. That is how Wikipedia works. -- GreenC 14:51, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion[edit]

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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 09:23, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]