Talk:Fiesta Bowl

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History section[edit]

This section was replaced by a copy and paste it appears. The previous version appears to be formatted well but lacks citations. Replacing the entire section wholesale with something that appears to be copied and pasted and not of the correct tone (and also lacks citations) does not appear to be a step in the right direction. asimperson (talk) 23:01, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wyoming appeared in the Sugar Bowl on January 1, 1968. If the text means that Wyoming and ASU did not receive major-bowl invitations for their Fall 1968 and Fall 1969 seasons (i.e., January 1969 and 1970 bowl games), perhaps that should be clarified. Jsch (talk) 18:34, 2 April 2011 (UTC)Jsch[reply]

Controversy[edit]

This controversy is relevant when schools in smaller conferences are sometimes snubbed in favor of schools with a larger fan base and thus higher television ratings. This is the whole issue surrounding todays BCS vs playoff controversy. It is very relevant

1980 results[edit]

Whoever keeps changing the 1980 results, please stop. Ohio State lost that game 31-19 to Penn State. Go to the FIesta Bowl website here [1]. Official results. I go to Ohio State and I wish they had won the game too, but they didn't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])

National championships[edit]

Please do not add * next to games that were not BCS national championship games. It doesn't matter if the team went on to win the national championship. Only use the * if it was a BCS national championship game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])

[edit]

I've updated the Fiesta Bowl logo, as the previous version was cropped. jareha 19:06, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

BCS title games[edit]

Technically the Fiesta Bowl joined the BCS in 1998, having their first title game then, had the second title game in the 2002 season, and are scheduled for the third title game in the 2006 season, even though the games were and will be played in 1999, 2003, and 2007. Should this information be changed in the opening paragraph? Dlong 03:10, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Qualification[edit]

This article doesn't really explain too well how the teams qualify to play in the Fiesta Bowl. Can someone explain in the article, or point out here in the discussion - to a non-american - how the teams are selected to play in this one? Thanks. 211.31.28.245 (talk) 15:15, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, it doesn't make much sense how the qualification process works, and its even harder to explain it. --Hectorir (talk) 08:34, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We are penn st

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not the first title sponsorship?[edit]

Article says: “It was the first bowl game to acquire a title sponsor when it became the "Sunkist Fiesta Bowl" starting with the 1986 game.”

It is certainly true that this was the first corporate title sponsorship. But was it the first title sponsorship of any kind? Speaking of the Tangerine Bowl Stadium, campingworldstadium.com says: “In 1983, the Florida Department of Citrus became the title sponsor at a price of $250,000.” That is part of the Florida state government, and the new name of the stadium was the Florida Citrus Bowl. Did this agreement also include the name of the bowl game? It was also changed starting in 1983 from the Tangerine Bowl to the Florida Citrus Bowl to match the stadium name change.

In addition, the game logo now matched the logo of the Department of Citrus (source: sportslogos.com). I don’t have the answer, but this evidence, especially the fact that money changed hands, suggests the Florida Citrus Bowl was the first bowl with title sponsorship, not the Sunkist Fiesta Bowl. 71.162.113.226 (talk) 23:40, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for the note. That's a good question. I don't see a clear source of that information cited in the article. I can take a look at contemporary (1983) news reports via newspapers.com to see what was said at that time, which should help to either support the claim or indicated that it should be removed. I'll try to follow-up the next day or two, and will leave an update here. Dmoore5556 (talk) 23:58, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Even if it turns out the state of Florida was sponsoring the bowl game as well as the stadium, I think the Fiesta Bowl should still be credited with the first corporate sponsorship, with an exaplation that the Florida Citrus Bowl had the first title sponsorship of any kind. After all, bowls always promoted local products, tourism, etc. But associating a private company's name with a bowl was something new and a pretty big deal. I remember TV Guide didn't like it, and wouldn't use corporate names. If a bowl had no other name, like when the John Hancock Sun Bowl dropped the "Sun" to become just the John Hancock Bowl in 1989, TV Guide listed it as simply "College Bowl" and continued this practice for several years. 71.162.113.226 (talk) 02:22, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Update: review of contemporary newspaper reporting via newspapers.com supports the points outlined above. The Tangerine Bowl struck a deal with the Florida Citrus Commission in March 1983, renaming itself as the Florida Citrus Bowl (a name it would carry through 2002). Sunkist Growers and the Fiesta Bowl struck the first corporate title sponsorship agreement, in September 1985, making the 1986 Fiesta Bowl officially the "Sunkist Fiesta Bowl". I've updated/clarified the relevant history sections: Fiesta Bowl#1980s and Citrus Bowl#History. Thanks again for your note, and insight. As an aside, I'll also follow-up on Sun Bowl history to add some detail around its John Hancock renaming. Dmoore5556 (talk) 01:49, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Looks good to me! 71.162.113.226 (talk) 14:25, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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