Talk:Fairhaven and Southern Railroad

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@Slambo, Glocke380, NortyNort, Daemonic Kangaroo, Katharineamy, and Clpo13: I'm sorry: I didn't find this because it lacked a redirect from Fairhaven & Southern Railroad (the actual name of the company used an ampersand) and I wrote an article at that location. Clearly a merger is in order. I realize this is the older article, but the other is the actual name of the railroad. Would anyone object to the merged article ending up at Fairhaven & Southern Railroad? - Jmabel | Talk 16:18, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Per Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains/Style advice#Article name, Fairhaven and Southern Railroad is the proper article name, and Fairhaven & Southern Railroad should be a redirect tagged with {{R from railroad name with ampersand}}. The ampersand was more commonly used back in the day, but it was never anything more than an abbreviation for "and". Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:35, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I was unaware of that convention. Then certainly Fairhaven and Southern Railroad is the proper article name, and there should be no further need for discussion. - Jmabel | Talk 01:52, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for all your work on this! By the way, I don't think the 16-mile figure for the Sedro-Cokedale branch can be correct. Cokedale is only about 3 miles away as the crow flies, and the terrain is flat. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:37, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Pi.1415926535: I've now done the merge as well as I can; you are welcome to take over.

I'm sure you are right about Cokedale. Maybe the 16 miles is measured from the F&S Junction to Cokedale, because I see on p.216 of Robertson, "November 15, 1890 [tab] The coal branch — three miles above Sedro — is to be extended five miles"; also "December 6, 1890 [tab] Four-mile coal branch from Sedro south has been completed and to open at once." I was going from p.215 of same: "The main line was 40.80 miles and the Cokedale branch 16.00." Those three quotations are 100% of what I've got, feel free to edit as you wish using that information and your knowledge. - Jmabel | Talk 04:45, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm noticing that a few stations are missing from the Seattle & Montana route map (namely Stanwood and Edmonds). The online version of the book citation is missing the page, so is it not listed on the map at all? I know for sure that there was passenger service to both stations (among many others) at the time. Sounder Bruce 06:22, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I assume that when you write "The online version of the book citation" you mean "[some] online version of the cited book", since my citations certainly indicate the pages. I was working from a paper copy of the book, borrowed from the Bellevue library, so I have no idea what is online. I worked from the map provided on the book. These are not mentioned there. You could add them if you have a source. I do notice that a timetable reproduced in the book mentions "Samish Lake", which they did not indicate on the map in the book, I will add that. - Jmabel | Talk 15:51, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]