Talk:Exposition des primitifs flamands à Bruges

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Legacy[edit]

Very impressive! I'd move "Legacy" above the list of exhibits though. I'll see if I can find more images. Johnbod (talk) 15:24, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:14, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Exposition des primitifs flamands à Bruges → Exhibition of Flemish Primitives at Bruges – Per WP:ENGLISH The title of an article should generally use the version of the name of the subject which is most common in the English language, as you would find it in reliable sources. There are some exceptions to the rule, but I don't think is one of them. JOJ Hutton 00:51, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment tend to support, if an English name really does exist in sources (?), but is "at Bruges" really the best disambiguator for this article? Some disambiguator is needed, since exhibitions of these artists are legion, but Exhibition of Flemish Primitives (1902) to my mind would be a lot more helpful in r/h search box and in Google results. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:23, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Oppose - It was a very important exhibition and the first of the kind when these artists were exhibited. All the scholarly sources I've read use the current title of the page. I can provide a bibliography (tomorrow, if this becomes contentious). I see no reason that a bold redirect can't do the job - if Fram hasn't already created one. Victoria (tk) 03:28, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose unless it is shown that the proposed new title is indeed "the version of the name of the subject which is most common in the English language". No objection against creating this and similar redirects of course. Fram (talk) 06:49, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose in line with Fram's reasoning and Victoria's suggestion for a redirect (there are many possible variations on the translated title which could be redirected; I'd suggest "...in Bruges" at least) Belle (talk) 08:16, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Would usually agree with the nom logic, but in this case the exhibition has a mythology about it, and is always refered to in this way in art historical sources. Note that in a search on Google Books, the eng term returns a lot of hits, but usually along the lines of the Exhibition of Flemish Primitives at Bruges; ie its not the exhib title (typical return: ...the famous Flemish Primitives exhibition held in Bruges in 1902...). Obviously redirects are a good idea. Ceoil (talk) 19:58, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I think Ceoil sums my views up extremely well also. Brigade Piron (talk) 16:50, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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JvE[edit]

Is the "Virgin and Child with donor Pieter Wijts" still credibly attributed to Jan van Eyck? I have not seen a confident claim, at least in English. Ceoil (talk) 01:32, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata links[edit]

Ping Jane023, Fram, is there any reason I shouldn't delete the strange wikidata links in the catalog number column? I was going to boldly make the edit, but there are hundreds of them and it will take annoyingly long. I decided to ask first. Alsee (talk) 10:13, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I am concerned, they can go, but I know that Jane023 is fond of them. Fram (talk) 10:14, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Wikidata is where the references reside for these paintings. Having the links offloads the data from the page. In other words no, do not delete them. They are not there as random rainbows to show solidarity with gay pride, but are there as references. Jane (talk) 16:25, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
True, but they aren't really necessary. They provide slightly faster pointers to the correct page of the catalogue, but a general link to the catalogue was already provided. In a case like this, having a reference for each individual item isn't needed. For smaller screens (mobile), having one column less may be beneficial.
And of course, they aren't real references anyway, as Wikidata is not a reliable source in the first place. If they are needed, they should be direct links to the book, not to a wiki page where you can find somewhere in it a link to the book. I appreciate why you added them, but we don't outsource referencing to other wikis, just like we don't outsource referencing to other pages on enwiki. Fram (talk) 16:49, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If you're citing sources, the sources should be reffed here. Alsee (talk) 10:41, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There are possibilities to add a reference to a Wikidata link, but adding 400 references which all point to the catalogue is IMO completely unnecessary. Fram (talk) 10:45, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Done, with one ref in the table-description. I found a faster/easier way to make the edit. In VE I created a new empty column. It was easier to type new numbers than to fiddle with deleting half of each existing table cell. I verified wikitext diff before saving. Edit size -11,486 bytes. Cool. Alsee (talk) 18:31, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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