Talk:European fallow deer

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Hi,

the article is interesting and good but the picture is wrong !!! This is not a Fallow Deer ( Dama Dama).

Thanks, Juan

Do you mean the picture on the right ? Is it about the antlers' shape ? What is on the picture then ? Arsine 11:44, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There's also a tiny population of Fallow deer in Western KY's 'Land Between the Lakes'. As for the picture on the right, the spotted colorings look right but I've seen better pictures of the shovel shaped antlers that characterize the Fallow Deer.

Hi The last picture in the Fallow Deer article is not a Fallow Deer stag at all. It is infact a Sika Deer in his summer coat and velvet antlers. I belive all the other pictures are Fallow. Mark Boyhan, Australia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.161.64.243 (talk) 20:46, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, the Fallow Deer is more slender and has flattened antlers. I removed the picture from the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.18.213.234 (talk) 23:06, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dead link[edit]

This link from the refs is apparently dead, but I'm parking here in case it's not. - Deer UK: Fallow Deer. -- 201.53.7.16 (talk) 15:23, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Current distribution?[edit]

Can anything about the current distribution be added to the article? Thanks. -- 201.53.7.16 (talk) 15:33, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maryland Fallow Herd[edit]

There is also a herd that frequents my property in Upper Marlboro, MD (20772). I've uploaded a couple older images that show the variety in their coloring. Note that they are aware of my presence when I snapped the picture. They particularly enjoy the high-bush blueberries outside my garden! I apologize for the poor quality images (old camera, now replaced).

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Fcreid (talk) 11:31, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Further[edit]

The wild Fallow Deer herd in the state of Georgia is coastal,, not central Georgia. The animals were introduced in the early 20th by am Austrian family that bought Little St Simons Island around 1910. There is currently a vibrant wild population of these animals there and some of the surrounding islands such as St Simons and Sea Island. I have hunted this population and can attest to the fact they are very abundant. On a note I have noticed that these very aggressive deer have a tendency to displace Whitetail Deer in these closed environments ,,, not sure what would happen were they to get a foot hold on the main land.

Further information (not yet discussed in this article):

http://books.google.com/books?id=bcWZX-IMEVkC&printsec=frontcover#v=snippet&q=%22fallow%20deer%22&f=false

More is shown in the taxobox range map than is covered in the text[edit]

I noticed that (i.e.File:Dama dama map.png) displays a number of areas as having "Modern human introductions" which are not mentioned in the text of the article. 'Room to grow', so to speak.

Following are a few links to sites I came across that may possibly be of interest. Mostly they're from googling "fallow deer canada".

--Kevjonesin (talk) 03:20, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Inconsistency with Deer of Great Britain[edit]

See my posting at Talk:Deer of Great Britain#Inconsistency with Fallow deer. If anybody can reconcile this, that would be good. --ColinFine (talk) 11:46, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Significant Changes[edit]

Hello, I will be adding a new section called "Mating System" to this page (Dama dama). It is for an assignment. I will be adding new information within the next week or so. Ewm822 (talk) 01:55, 28 March 2018 (UTC) ewm822[reply]

Update[edit]

Hello, I am now posting the finished section called "Mating System" for Dama dama, there are also some subsections within mating systems that include some of the topics throughout the course that we learned, which is also applicable to the mating system and behaviour of fallow deer (Dama dama), thanks. Ewm822 (talk) 14:52, 16 April 2018 (UTC) ewm822[reply]

When competing for a male?[edit]

In the Contests and Weaponry section, I can't tell what this sentence is supposed to mean:

Dominance ranks exist within fallow deer populations which can be linked to aggression level and body size, when competing for a male, however, how ranks are obtained is not studied extensively.

I assume it means "when competing for a mate" rather than male, since the outline at the referenced link only references males competing with each other. I did not change it because it might mean "which can be linked to aggression level and body size when competing, for a male", meaning to emphasize that the paragraph referred to dominance ranks in males rather than females.

Either way I think there should be a change but since I'm not sure of the original intent I'm going to leave it for now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.102.75.204 (talk) 00:32, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion to add a new page: Dama (genus)[edit]

Since the genus Dama refers to two different species (Dama dama and Dama mesopotamica), and Dama redirects to this article, I suggest creating a new article just for this genus, then altering the taxonomy links on the side of each species' pages. Ddum5347 (talk) 01:09, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Native range of Fallow Deer[edit]

The article has fallow deer being introduced by humans to Europe, but two skeletons in Germany date back some 120,000 years. ^[1] 81.32.18.19 (talk) 12:24, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-018-0596-1

The article says "The fallow deer was native to most of Europe during the last interglacial". 120,000 years ago is the last interglacial, so I don't see a contradiction. Anaxial (talk) 13:35, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I was looking at the distribution map which has them being introduced to Europe between c.1000 and c.1900: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallow_deer#/media/File:Dama_dama_map.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.32.18.19 (talk) 14:54, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have rephrased the caption to "post-glacial" range, which should cover that. Anaxial (talk) 18:51, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wouldn't the Fallow Deer have been able to extend its range a lot if it hadn't been for humans? If it's true that it survived in Italy (according to the map) one can assume the Fallow deer would naturally occur in Germany again. (and even coming from Turkey) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:1205:34E7:92D0:B071:47BF:6488:5668 (talk) 16:45, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-018-0596-1

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