Talk:England A national rugby union team

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I've dealt with this. Jimmy Pitt (talk) 14:54, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Squad[edit]

Should the current squad shown here at http://www.england-rugby.com/englandrugby/index.cfm?fuseaction=News.News_Detail&storyid=18490 replace in January announced squad and indicate players who have dropped out through injury.Londo06 09:34, 02 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're right: it should be updated. I'll do it if you like, but it won't happen until after today's 6N games :) So if you feel like doing it ... Jimmy Pitt (talk) 11:31, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Beat me to it. Will look to add notes on players who have dropped out through injury or called up to senior squad. Also into having the three groups side by side.Londo06 12:22, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I had a bit of spare time :) Yes, the three groups side-by-side would look better; I don't like these long lists. It might simply be a case of wrapping the existing three tables inside one larger one. Jimmy Pitt (talk) 12:25, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Shouldn't there be a box for those players initially called up and no longer in the current squad, or at least a note stating why. Also a split section on the players sounds like a good idea. CorleoneSerpicoMontana (talk) 06:25, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In principle, yes. The problem is keeping track of them all! One reason for changes is that the Saxons are being treated as a reserve pool for the full squad: Paul Hodgson, for example, was called into the senior squad, wasn't considered for the Wales game because of an injured shoulder, and, so far as I'm aware, hasn't officially been dropped from the senior squad, yet he's in the Saxons squad preparing for the Italy A game. And quite a few players were released to play in the Premiership this weekend. So far, I've tended to the view that it's easier to list the current squad (a bit of a movable feast!) and reference the RFU announcements that indicate changes. But if you can think up a way of showing the changes, go for it.
Of course, the Italy A game is the last for some months, and I'd guess that the whole thing will change drastically for the Churchill Cup. Given the infrequent games, we could, perhaps, consider listing the squads for each game; it wouldn't be difficult, but would, I think, call for a change in the current layout, otherwise we'd finished up with uncomfortably long lists. Jimmy Pitt (talk) 13:07, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Following the Italy game it may be worthwhile showing all the players selected and giving them apps and pts for the 2008 Saxons. This would mean we would have to set it side-by-side as a number of players have drifted in and out of the squad. CorleoneSerpicoMontana (talk) 07:49, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think that would be good. I'm not sure how you see the "side by side" bit working -- do you want to have a shot at it? Jimmy Pitt (talk) 10:46, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fixtures[edit]

Are the fixtures not a useful part of the page to show that it is a team that do have a program rather than a band of players that come together once in a while for a ruck in the mud?Londo06 14:43, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was: Moved back to previous title. Station1 (talk) 08:55, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

England Saxons national rugby union team → England Saxons — Move back to the original title of this article, "England Saxons", which was moved in April with no explanation given. "England Saxons" is both the common and official name of the team, and is unambigous. See similar second national sides, like the Junior All Blacks and the Emerging Springboks. —84.92.117.93 (talk) 14:20, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (sports), we should be using the official name unless there is a good reason not to. Perhaps the editor who moved it before thought there was a potential for confusion with the Anglo-Saxons, but at best that would be grounds to add a hatnote, not to rename the article. --RL0919 (talk) 21:55, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've placed a hatnote per your suggestion, so people looking for Anglo-Saxons will be able to find that article. 84.92.117.93 (talk) 22:43, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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