Talk:Elysian Valley, Los Angeles

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No sources.[edit]

Unfortunately, I had to remove most of the article as lacking sources. If you find good citations to use, put the material back, but I would recommend adding a little at a time so that other editors can check it. GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:30, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Frog town name origin[edit]

Just curious where the slang name came from? It's just unusual. S. Stevemch7 (talk) 01:33, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I believe it is in the video linked at the bottom of the page. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 02:34, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 18 August 2016[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. No such user (talk) 07:44, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Frogtown, Los Angeles → Elysian Valley, Los Angeles – "Elysian Valley" is the actual name of this neighborhood. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 02:05, 18 August 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Omni Flames (talk) 07:01, 25 August 2016 (UTC) --Relisting (last relist) Omni Flames (talk) 07:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the article was titled Elysian Valley, Los Angeles until a move in 2014 based on this source ("Its official name, Elysian Valley, is rarely used") and cf. WP:OFFICIALNAME. — AjaxSmack 05:01, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Los Angeles Times spent thousands of dollars to describe all the neighborhoods of Los Angeles, and decided that this neighborhood is called "Elysian Valley." http://maps.latimes.com/neighborhoods/neighborhood/elysian-valley/ BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 05:44, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There are also references to Elysian Valley here. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 05:46, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME, and precedents like SoHo, Manhattan. There's no requirement to use the WP:OFFICIALNAME in cases like this, just to have redirects from them that get people to the right article. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼ 21:07, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Followup[edit]

BeenAroundAWhile asked me to reconsider the close, and the debate had very limited input over pretty long time indeed. I agree that the decision is borderline. As both names are in circulation, and "Elysian Valley" seems to be in formal use by media (see e.g. http://www.theeastsiderla.com/tag/elysian-valley/ ), we might as well follow suit – we don't title our article on Philadelphia as "Philly" either. If anyone feels strongly about the issue, feel free to ask me to revert and reopen the RM, this is not a formal closure but sort-of-IAR move to prevent a long process over a rather minor issue. No such user (talk) 09:52, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure what you mean, since I don't know what IAR is. Are you OK'ing the change, and should I make it, or will there be more discussion? BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 04:40, 14 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WP:IAR="Ignore all rules". I agreed with your reasoning and already made the change, didn't I? Unless anyone seriously objects, we don't have to have any additional discussion. No such user (talk) 11:47, 14 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You needn't be so snippy. I don't appreciate that dismissive tone. Sincerely, your friend, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 04:52, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]