Talk:Electoral Calculus

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Italic title[edit]

This useful tidying is much appreciated (especially the date formatting, which is something I don't pay enough attention to, usually just going for the quickest option - thanks). But regarding the italic title, MOS:ITALIC states Website titles may or may not be italicized depending on the type of site and what kind of content it features. Online magazines, newspapers, and news sites with original content should generally be italicized (such as Salon.com or The Huffington Post). Online encyclopedias and dictionaries (like Scholarpedia or Merriam-Webster Online) should also be italicized. Other types of websites should be decided on a case-by-case basis. IMO this site a creative work and therefore qualifies. The infobox also uses italics, so it seemed logical. However, I'm really not fussed either way and will therefore leave it alone. Thanks for reading. --Trevj (talk) 05:33, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Trvj. The site may include creative content, but that's not the criterion. Pertinent is the fact that it's not an "online magazine, newspaper, or news site" nor is it something like an "online encyclopedia and dictionary". It's just a site with some information, not a newspaper or something that would ordinarily (outside of the World Wide Web) be italicized.

Also, in regards to the italicization of the website infobox: I noticed that when I was making my other edits, and clicked through to Template:Infobox website to find out why it was (incorrectly, IMHO) italicized. Turns out somebody asked for it to be that way in 2010, based on the (incorrect, IMO) italicization of the work parameter by {{cite web}}. However, others have finally noticed this oddity, and a discussion started a few days ago. I'm hoping it will get changed back to vertical Roman face. I think that would be not only right, but less confusing for cases like this. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 14:30, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the useful comments. I agree that this site is not a news site or similar and therefore probably shouldn't be italicized. --Trevj (talk) 19:35, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Predictions table[edit]

I've attempted to use User:Trevj/Election incumbent with party link within Electoral Calculus#Cited predictions but my limited familiarity with both templates and nested wikitables means it would currently look like this:

Election

Constituency

MP

Prediction

Date

2015

Dover

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Overturn

2012-04-27^[1]

This is clearly far from ideal, in terms of layout and the sortable aspect being lost (presumably due to the nesting). So until the template's improved (or perhaps an all-encompassing predictions template created) I'm not going to copy it to Template namespace for use. Something like this may be useful in other articles too. If anyone has any comments or inclination to improve things in the mean time, that'd be most welcome. Thanks. -- Trevj (talk) 08:47, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Try this. Warofdreams talk 16:05, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Election	Constituency		Party	MP	Prediction	Date
2015	Dover		Conservative	Charlie Elphicke	Overturn	2012-04-27^[1]

Thanks very much - that's more like it! I'll have a play when I've more time. Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 09:04, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've been doing some playing but have a way to go yet!

sandbox

Election	Constituency		Party	MP	Prediction	Date
-	constituency party	MP name	style="background: 90ff90; color: #000; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center; " class="yes table-yes2 notheme"\|Overturn	2012-04-27^[1]

Election	Constituency		Party	MP	Prediction	Date
2015	Dover style="width: 2px; background-color: #0087DC;" data-sort-value="Conservative Party (UK)" \|	Conservative	Charlie Elphicke	Overturn	2012-04-27^[1]

Election	Constituency		Party	MP	Prediction	Date
United Kingdom general election, 2015	Dover style="width: 2px; background-color: #F8F9FA;" data-sort-value="Charlie Elphicke" \|	Charlie Elphicke	MP name	style="background: 90ff90; color: #000; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center; " class="yes table-yes2 notheme"\|Overturn	2012-04-27^[1]

Election	Constituency		Party	MP	Prediction	Date
2015	Dover style="width: 2px; background-color: #0087DC;" data-sort-value="Conservative Party (UK)" \|	Conservative	Charlie Elphicke	Overturn	2012-04-27^[1]

Election	Constituency		Party	MP	Prediction	Date
United Kingdom general election, 2015	Dover style="width: 2px; background-color: #0087DC;" data-sort-value="Conservative Party (UK)" \|	Conservative	Charlie Elphicke	style="background: ff9090; color: #000; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center; " class="yes table-yes2 notheme"\|Hold	2012-04-27^[1]

Election	Constituency		Party	MP	Prediction	Date
2015	Dover style="width: 2px; background-color: #0087DC;" data-sort-value="Conservative Party (UK)" \|	Conservative	Charlie Elphicke	Overturn	2012-04-27^[1]

Election	Constituency		Party	MP	Prediction	Date
United Kingdom general election, 2015	Dover style="width: 2px; background-color: #0087DC;" data-sort-value="Conservative Party (UK)" \|	Conservative	Charlie Elphicke	style="background: ff9090; color: #000; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center; " class="yes table-yes2 notheme"\|Hold	2012-04-27^[1]

Election	Constituency		Party	MP	Prediction	Date
2015	Dover style="width: 2px; background-color: #0087DC;" data-sort-value="Conservative Party (UK)" \|	Conservative	Charlie Elphicke	Overturn	2012-04-27^[1]

-- Trevj (talk) 14:58, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g ^h ⁱ ^j "MP's on course to lose his seat". thisiskent.co.uk. Northcliffe Media. April 27, 2012. Retrieved May 24, 2012.

Minor Parties[edit]

The minor parties - Ukip, the Greens and BNP are now included in the calculations. You can opt to include their share and seats. [1]

Regarding Ukip they won 16.5% in the Euro election of 2009 but this was just 3% in the 2010 General Election. In terms of General Elections - which is what Electoral Calculus is about, they are still 'minor' and would need 24% to win a single seat. (Coachtripfan (talk) 14:27, 7 May 2013 (UTC))[reply]

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