Talk:Ed Sheeran/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

iTunes store reference has been used

Lego house has been referenced with the iTunes Store link. Is this okay as per Wikipedia guidelines? Also there are iTunes chart information given, doesn't Wikipedia: Record charts state that single-vendor charts cannot demonstrate notability through charting also online retailers such as iTunes and Amazon.com should be avoided. It can be seen as inappropriate to directly link to a site where one can purchase the subject in question. Wikipedia's role should not be used to advance the sale of an album nor to promote one retailer over another. This should be clarified--Tashiya Jayatilaka (talk) 18:13, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs has an RFC

Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs has an RFC for the use of radio station/networks' playlists being cited in articles. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Heartfox (talk) 00:01, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Missing source for new claim?

This article claims that Sheeran said, in an interview, that he would be putting out 2 new albums (= and -) in the next 18 months, but does not provide a source. I haven't been able to find the source with some google searches. Maybe worth checking out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Foraged porridge (talk • contribs) 01:09, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

I've reverted that claim, Foraged porridge: while probably true, I cannot find any reliable sources that state that Sheeran said so and it is probable original research. Thanks for pointing this out. Sdrqaz (talk) 02:13, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 July 2021

Please include in the associated artists line, that Ed Sheeran was temporarily a member of the Horne Section during the episode that aired on the 2nd July 2021. And therefore Alex Horne and the Horne Section is an associated artist. Benjrokeefe (talk) 22:21, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

@Benjrokeefe:Can you please provide a source supporting this information? Meatsgains^(talk) 23:03, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

The Album Name is Not Speculated 'Minus' - Debunked by Sheeran

In section 2.6, "Upcoming fifth studio album" it is noted that the fifth album is speculated to be called 'Minus'. While there IS speculation that the icon is the subtraction sign, Sheeran himself confirmed that the title of the album is NOT 'minus'. Source is here: (check time 6:15) (Ryan Seacrest interview). It is requested that the statement is retracted or swapped with 'Subtract' and 'Takeaway', as those two alternative titles are the truly speculated names for the album.

Plooten (talk) 15:32, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Errm, we don't tend to include any speculation, even if it's "true speculation"? Sorry to be so negative. lol Martinevans123 (talk) 15:37, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

That's fine, but right now there's speculation on the article with it stating "...with some suggesting the album could be titled - (pronounced "minus"), however nothing is confirmed." Which is debunked with the source I've given. So if someone could retract that statement, as that's not only speculation but now false speculation lol. While it may be the - symbol, it is not pronounced "minus". Plooten (talk) 15:46, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Um, if one releases a series of albums with titles pronounced "plus", "multiply" and "divide" respectively then, you know, I think one could reasonably expect that kind of speculation? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:57, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

No no, you're 100% right. Not my intentional at all. It will probably be - or =, from what we know from Ed himself from my other comment below. But to put it in context, 'minus', 'subtract', and 'takeaway' have all been speculated ways to pronounce the - album. I'm just saying that the article stated that the speculated - album was pronounced 'minus', which was just debunked recently. It's 100% fair for one to assume it'll be -! Plooten (talk) 16:02, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

On a further note, it should probably be replaced with the notion that it is either - or =, as later in that interview, Sheeran confirms that the next album is on the Ipswich Town Football Club shirts, sourced here: . This indicates that the next album is either - or =, as those are the only two symbols on the shirt that are not already albums. Picture of the shirt for reference is available on the Ipswich Town shop website, here . Plooten (talk) 15:52, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Cool. I'm going to speculate that it's going to be called "TOUR" :) Martinevans123 (talk) 15:59, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Who knows! Technically possible! But, if one releases a series of albums with titles pronounced "plus", "multiply", and "divide" respectively then, you know, I think it is the unlikely candidate. :) Plooten (talk) 16:10, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Haha! Are you sure them tractor boys even know how to use them mathematical symbols?? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:49, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Ah great, seems it's a tribute album, then. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:13, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 3 December 2021

103.85.10.1 (talk) 09:55, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Associated acts you should add Elton John

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 11:13, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

• He runs Sheeran's management company? But we do now have "On 29 November 2021, Sheeran and Elton John announced their new single "Merry Christmas", a festive duet for charity. Inspired by a scene from the festive romantic-comedy film Love Actually,". So it's a possibility. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:26, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 December 2021

Married 2019 to Married 2018. Skilletgamingtv (talk) 18:05, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

 Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:12, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Collab project

@LaVozSA: Do we consider No.5 and No.6 as collab projects, not studio albums? -- BrandNew Jim Zhang (talk) 14:03, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Well I personally think we should recognise them as separate projects. Even Sheeran himself is calling '÷' his 4th album. LaVozSA (talk) 15:05, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Personally I think Equals is his fourth album. Divide is his third studio album. No.5 Collaborations Project is an EP and No. 6 Collaborations is considered a studio album, but I think the latter should be changed to the first collaboration or compilation album instead. Equals is Sheeran’s fourth album according to himself, and if he says that himself, we should go with that. What about y’all? PopLizard86427 (talk) 15:30, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Wait hold on, I was watching his IG Live about announcing the album and he calls it his fourth solo album. So we can consider No.6 Collaborations Project a studio album and Equals his fourth solo album and fifth overall. Boom. PopLizard86427 (talk) 15:42, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

On the ig post where he announces the album, he refers to the album as "My fourth studio album". To me, this is very clear. No. 6 was simply a collaboration album, similar to Gaga and Tony's "Cheek to Cheek", or Jay-Z and Kanye's "Watch the Throne". "÷" is his third studio album, and "=" is his fourth. Does this not make sense to anyone else? 2601:48:8100:B6A0:9157:B16:D90B:7939 (talk) 16:59, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

According to Ss112, There was an discussion about No.6 Collaborations Project being a studio album or not on its talk page and after the discussion they referred it as a Studio album. So in that case, we will name equals his fifth album because of that discussion. PopLizard86427 (talk) 17:17, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Ok well whether it's a studio album or not, = is being billed as his fourth studio album by Ed himself. Are we really going to disregard what the artist is calling his own work? That's pretty disgusting if you ask me.

I actually just pulled up Ed's announcement of the No. 6 album, and he never refers to it as his fourth album, or even a studio album. On the other hand, he has officially referred to = as his fourth studio album. Regardless of whatever conversation took place on the No. 6 talk page, I believe that given the announcement from Ed today, we should go back and simply change what we had labelled it as. It was very clearly meant to be just a collaboration album to tide fans over until his next official studio album. How anyone doesn't get that is beyond me. 2601:48:8100:B6A0:9157:B16:D90B:7939 (talk) 17:30, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

In addition to all of this, No. 6 has been changed on both Ed's main page and discography page as a collaboration album, not a studio album. Literally the only thing left to change is calling "=" his fourth album, not fifth, as it no longer makes sense to call it his fifth. 2601:48:8100:B6A0:9157:B16:D90B:7939 (talk) 17:32, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm just going to throw out a suggestion, I think we should call ÷ his 4th album (which he does himself) and call No.6 a collaboration album, something like No.6 Collaborations Project is a collaboration album by Ed Sheeran?? I'm not to sure if that would make sense but it is the only solution I can come up with. LaVozSA (talk) 20:20, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

There still seems to be some confusion and reverts back and forth on this. The lead to No.6 Collaborations Project says fourth studio album. The = (album) flips back and forth between it being the fourth and fifth studio album. As does the reference on the +–=÷x Tour article. I've attached a citation to the word "fourth" in the = (album) article citing the Instagram post (https://www.instagram.com/p/CSweHB5iOyZ/) in which Sheeran himself refers to Equals as his fourth studio album. I am assuming Ed Sheeran's verified Instagram account is acceptable as per WP:INSTAGRAM as a viable primary source. However, if you look for third-party sources, it gets murky; the Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/aug/19/ed-sheeran-announces-new-album-equals), Official Charts (https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/ed-sheeran-announces-fifth-studio-album-__33843/) and Rolling Stone (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/ed-sheeran-equals-album-1214127/) all refer to it as his fifth studio album. I guess it comes down to the definition of "studio album". Why does Sheeran himself not consider No.6 Collaborations Project a studio album? Digital Elysium (talk) 12:39, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

I would say that’s because it’s a collaboration album. Sheeran clearly distinguishes between that and his other albums. I believe we can define a collaboration album as an album whose tracks all feature another artist or artists. This is clearly different from studio albums, which are either all solo tracks or mostly solo tracks with some features. Does that not make sense to anyone else? To me, No. 6 Collaborations Project clearly is a separate thing from Add, Multiply, Divide and now Equals. Can we get a consensus on this? 2601:48:8100:B6A0:B435:22AF:C973:92A9 (talk) 21:30, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 December 2021

Ed is of Irish heritage and this isn’t mentioned anywhere which is racist!

His grandparents are Irish - he has made an album and videos about his Irish heritages and yet, this page mentions little to nothing??

Absolute racism and ready to report if not changed!! 31.187.0.49 (talk) 00:16, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

The article already mentions his Irish grandparents. RudolfRed (talk) 00:21, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2022

Associated Acts adding Andrea Bocelli as of 2021 174.251.163.229 (talk) 05:47, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:01, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

The only place that Andrea Bocelli is mentioned in the article is in the headline of this article about his brother, composer Matt Sheeran? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:14, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 March 2022

Maybe someone can update Ed Sheeran's photo to something up-to-date, (and more flattering), rather that a photo taken in Berlin 2018, plus he hasn't worn glasses for a year due to eye laser surgery, and has lost weight 58.179.118.162 (talk) 13:14, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: If you have an image in mind that meets WP:image use policy, feel free to link to it here and reopen the request Cannolis (talk) 13:48, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Looking at Commons here, it seems that 2018 are the latest ones uploaded there. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:21, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Singer-songwriter

Not sure what the problem is with the term 'singer-songwriter' - it's a commonly used and understood term for people who largely write, record and perform their own songs. Using "singer and songwriter" is unnecessary. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 22:51, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 August 2022

Due to Ed Sheeran's performance of Irish folk songs like Nancy Mulligan, Galway Girl, The Parting Glass and Raglan Road. I would like to propose that Irish Folk be added to the list of genres on Ed Sheeran's infobox. I accept that folk-pop is on the infobox, but I think that Irish Folk should be added. Mackyboy789 (talk) 15:38, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. You need to provide significant coverage in reliable sources labeling his music as belonging to that genre. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 22 November 2022

I would like to see Ed Sheeran's photo replaced with something more recent, not that old photo from Berlin in 2018 with a beard and glasses. Ed Sheeran had laser eye surgery in 2021, so doesn't wear glasses anymore 58.179.118.162 (talk) 13:11, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: Please give a specific image to replace it with. I searched in commons:Category:Ed Sheeran and didn't find any recent image. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 13:24, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Add Ed Sheeran qualification

I think we could add in the Early life and Education paragraph that Ed Sheeran has received the RSL Awards Level 4 Creative Practitioner Qualification. Filippo London (talk) 16:36, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

When exactly did he receive that? Is it a recognised qualification? Was it an honorary award by that organisation? Thanks. 205.239.40.3 (talk) 10:28, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 20 November 2022

change: "He is a patron of Youth Music Theatre UK (now renamed British Youth Music Theatre)[29] and of Access to Music, where he studied Artist Development"

to : "He is a patron of Youth Music Theatre UK (now renamed British Youth Music Theatre)[29] and of Access to Music, where he studied Artist Development at the British Academy of New Music in London."

sources: https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/789213/Ed-Sheeran-album-British-Academy-of-New-Music-Fiona-Ross-jazz-album https://nataal.com/nova-twins https://www.lowestoftjournal.co.uk/news/22913793.lowestoft-music-producer-releases-debut-album-successful-kylie-tour/ Leetbts (talk) 15:53, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The Daily Express is considered generally unreliable, and the other two sources simply mention the artist's supposed attendance at the Academy to lend credibility to their respective subjects. Sheeran could have easily attended the Academy for a week and other artists are hitching their wagon to him. I can't find any other information online about this Academy either, which doesn't help for notability. TGHL ↗ 🍁 19:36, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

No mention of LadBaby single?

The song "Sausage Rolls For Everyone" is worth a mention here as it features Ed Sheehan (along with Elton John) and was one of Sheeran's UK number ones. It is mentioned on John's page so a bit strange that it isn't also mentioned here. 92.15.148.117 (talk) 08:53, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I feel your pain and loss and I hope you will be strengthened in due time to deal with your grief. I hope your wife recovers fully. Enjoy your family you are special. God bless 2A02:C7C:5D26:4600:3CD0:CF4C:8212:24AC (talk) 13:47, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2023

Can you please update Ed Sheeran's photo to a newer one, not one from 2018, plus he hasn't worn glasses since 2021 58.179.118.162 (talk) 21:38, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Tollens (talk) 22:34, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

@Tollens: and @58.179.118.162: Please give IP users an actual legit response and not an automated one like you are a bot. Actually try to help them. It is more than clear what they want changed. "Provide reliable sources", they are requesting a photo to be changed. Did you even read their request? There is a photo from 2022 but it is not well suited for the infobox because it would need to be cropped. The one from 2018 will have to do for now. We could always crop the 2022 one but I am not sure how to do that. Bowling is life (talk) 22:43, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

@Bowling is life: I assume you are talking about File:Queen Elizabeth II Platinum Jubilee 2022 - Platinum Pageant (52124436078).jpg. Do you just want a head shot? I can crop down if you want. The mic is only problem as covers part of face. Keith D (talk) 19:09, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

@Keith D: That photo would work. It doesn't necessarily need to be a head shot, maybe we could just cut out some of the background. Like the right side of the photo. Bowling is life (talk) 22:29, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

@Bowling is life: OK, I have cropped the right-hand side and a little off the top. Here is the result File:Queen Elizabeth II Platinum Jubilee 2022 - Platinum Pageant (52124436078) (cropped).jpg Keith D (talk) 22:42, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

@Keith D: Looks good. Thank you! Bowling is life (talk) 22:48, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 April 2023

I would like to update the current info box image to a later image. The current image is from 2018 and is quite outdated. Charlie.j.Mashford199 (talk) 05:55, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: Hello Charlie.j.Mashford199, and welcome to Wikipedia! A very common reason why images on Wikipedia appear to be updated is due to our policy on the usage of copyrighted images. While it would theroretically be possible to use a privately licensed image of Ed Sheeran under fair use, policy dictates editors use a free version of a subject when available. These tend to be older images.

In this particular case, editors are already coordinating in the above section to try and get a freely licensed and more recent photo of Ed Sheeran added to the article. Feel free to participate in that discussion. Such a discussion existing precludes the edit from being performed via an edit request.

Cheers, and happy editing! —Sirdog (talk) 06:35, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

2023 copyright infringement litigation needs adding

See Petridis (2023) on this matter. The jury decision went in Sheeran's favor. See also Lee (2023). RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 05:56, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

References

Suggest "Suffolk" (county) gets a link for consistency - as in "Framlingham, Suffolk" - since "West Yorkshire" has one... 2A00:23C8:1382:F201:B5A6:1DB0:AAFF:688F (talk) 21:21, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Album numbering

Sheeran has always distinguished between his "collaborative" studio albums (No.5 ep and No.6 album) and his "solo" studio albums (+×÷=-). Should we apply the same criteria? Most sources refer to Subtract as Sheeran's fifth studio album and to Equals as his fourth. FilBenLeafBoy (talk) 17:22, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Ed Sheeran wiki page

He plays guitar bass drums piano & cello Connor Covington (talk) 21:12, 31 May 2023 (UTC)