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Missinformation in section "Privatization and business ties"[edit]

In this section it is claimed that a number of banks, the "Deutsche Reichsbahn" and the "Vereinigte Stahlwerke A.G." were privatized. The german article for the Vereinigte Stahlwerke claims that the publicly held stocks were privatized. It also claims that the company was partially re-nationalized in 1939, and in 1944 again partially re-privatized. This is not mentioned in this article.

While important information about the Vereinte Stahlwerke is omitted, it is still true that the company was privatized in 1936. This can not be said about the claim about the Deutsche Reichsbahn. The cited source only says that stocks "were to be sold", not that they were actually sold. In reality, the company was nationalized by decree in 1937 (Gesetz zur Neuregelung der Verhältnisse der Reichsbank und der Deutschen Reichsbahn). In conclusion, this part of the article is blatant missinformation.

In my opinion, the entire article is very biased. This bias is not present in the german version. This is a great article about the economy of nazi germany, published by the bpd, a german government agency. The bpd article and the english wikipedia article are contradictory in many sections. In my opinion, this article needs an overhaul to bring it closer to its german version. 2003:E6:FF35:1000:11AD:69D6:7031:D49 (talk) 19:49, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can tell, the accusation of "blatant misinformation" here refers to the fate of two specific companies (Deutsche Reichsbahn and Vereinigte Stahlwerke A.G.), out of many that are mentioned in the section in question. That is very far from being a problem with the section or the article as a whole. Those two companies are only listed in passing anyway; they are not especially important. And with regard to Vereinigte Stahlwerke, the concern above is not that the article says anything false, but that it does not mention that the company was partially re-nationalized in 1939 and then partially re-privatized again in 1944. I honestly don't see why that's important, but of course we could include it if a source was provided.

With regard to Deutsche Reichsbahn, it is true that the source only mentions that it was intended to be privatized (shares were to be sold in the fiscal year 1934-35), not that it actually was. I've made an edit to reflect this. I don't know if those shares actually were or weren't sold, but again I don't think one company (mentioned in passing) is so important that the article needs to go into detail about it. -- Amerul (talk) 07:06, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The whole arcticle is just far-left agenda abount "Hitler's capitalism". Thats why there is so much disinformation about property privatization. 5.228.4.240 (talk) 23:14, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This has already been discussed several times before, both here and at the main article Nazi. You are welcome to feel however you want about it but this article will continue to represent the mainstream scholarly consensus on the matter. Generalrelative (talk) 23:24, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

5.228.4.240, your edit goes against consensus, which is a core principle of Wikipedia (see WP:CONSENSUS). The source you used does not reflect most of the scholarship on this topic, and more importantly, it does not even say what you claim it says. You are using it to claim that there was no privatization, when in fact the source characterizes the Nazi economy as one with "private ownership and central planning", alongside "wartime economies". This article already mentions that the privatization was "applied within a framework of... regulation and political interference". To oversimplify, the Nazis privatized industries and let private owners reap the profits (often very large profits), but also gave them orders to do certain things and not other things. Whether this does or does not count as "Hitler's capitalism", I don't know. The article doesn't call it capitalism, it just says what happened. The word "capitalist" is only used one time, to refer to the "capitalist system of the United States" (not Germany!). If you think that the description of Germany given here matches capitalism, that is your opinion and not something the article says. -- Amerul (talk) 07:27, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This page is not a blog. Your opinions aren't relevant to Wikipedia; post them somewhere else. 2600:8802:5913:1700:40DB:FA20:E26B:C331 (talk) 09:08, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]