Talk:Eastern Romance influence on Slavic languages
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Rename to "Romance Influence on Slavic languages"[edit]
It is a more precise term for which more information is available. Especially since the article mentions languages such as Aromanian, Megleno-Romanian, and Istro-Romanian, the title "Romanian Influence" is simply misleading. Dintre (talk) 15:32, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- The problem with that is Romanian can also refer to Proto-Romanian, while Romance means also French or Italian, and that is a big topic that deserves an article on its own.
- If that is the only issue I suggest "Daco-Romance influence on Slavic Languages"
Edit: or we could simply remove the reference to the other 3 languages. . Aristeus01 (talk) 18:45, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- No, I agree with you. But i would use "Eastern Romance languages" (or "Balkan Romance") instead of "Daco-Romance" because it's more common in the literature. Dintre (talk) 21:24, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- I think that would be a good idea. It would give us the opportunity to briefly discuss the pre-Romance influence as well as give Dalmatian a well deserved spot, and circumvent debates or expand more freely when speaking of Balkan Romance languages. Thanks @Dintre. Aristeus01 (talk) 02:31, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- As far as I know, Dalmatian is unrelated to the four descendants of Proto-Romanian. It is more related to the languages in the Italian peninsula. In my opinion they shouldn't be included. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 08:57, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
- I think that would be a good idea. It would give us the opportunity to briefly discuss the pre-Romance influence as well as give Dalmatian a well deserved spot, and circumvent debates or expand more freely when speaking of Balkan Romance languages. Thanks @Dintre. Aristeus01 (talk) 02:31, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Very interesting article. I'd recommend renaming to Eastern Romance influences on Slavic languages. Be careful not to adopt a "Romaniacentric" approach, as non-Romanian researchers tend not to use the term "Daco-Romanian", and most of them consider Aromanian, Megleno-Romanian and Istro-Romanian as separate languages from the language of Romania no matter what is it called. Which is I believe the appropriate approach for the sake of neutrality.
- Aristeus01, I'm aware of certain Istro-Romanian (from the "Krko-Romanian" dialect actually) in the local dialect of Croatian in the island of Krk. I think it could be worth mentioning at the Serbo-Croatian section, could you add this if you're able to? I have added some info on this at the fourth paragraph at Istro-Romanians#Late Middle Ages and further, but there might be more in the source (I don't rememeber as I wrote that article years ago), here is the source [1] (I think the part where it talks about the linguistic loans is at pages 351-352).
- By the way, as I mentioned in an edit summary, please don't forget to remove the Wikipedia Library links from references, as those can only by accessed by other people with access to the Wikipedia Library (0.001% of the world population?). Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 21:44, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Super Dromaeosaurus, I wasn't aware of the link issue.
- An interesting topic, the Krk one. Of course, we can expand on that and the overall Istro-Romanian influence as much as the sources permit. Aristeus01 (talk) 03:39, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for solving the link issue on the article. I pinged you here [2] due to this edit in another article including one such links [3], not sure if the ping worked. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 06:21, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Ping worked, thanks. Speaking off, I think the article can be considerably extended with lexis analysis and examples. Alternatively, to keep it concise we could start a new article with link and a brief in the main. Aristeus01 (talk) 05:19, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
- The article is not too long, so I wouldn't split for now. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 08:57, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
- Ping worked, thanks. Speaking off, I think the article can be considerably extended with lexis analysis and examples. Alternatively, to keep it concise we could start a new article with link and a brief in the main. Aristeus01 (talk) 05:19, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for solving the link issue on the article. I pinged you here [2] due to this edit in another article including one such links [3], not sure if the ping worked. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 06:21, 2 August 2023 (UTC)