Talk:Duchy of Limburg (1839–1867)

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1866 or 1867[edit]

Someone changed the year 1866 to 1867, but I don't think this is correct. Some sources (Dutch Wikipedia) claim that in the year 1966 Limburg stepped outside the German Confederation and that it lost it's official status of a Duchy (which was linked to the membership). In 1867 it was only clarified in the Treaty of London (1867) that Limburg is considered an integral part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. So it wasn't already a Duchy anymore a half year earlier. Demophon (talk) 06:34, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Luxembourg[edit]

Luxemburg, like Limburg, was a province of the of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, while at the same time being a Grand Duchy in the German Confederation. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 08:38, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article states that the second treaty of London 'in 1867 affirmed that both Luxembourg and Limburg were henceforth to be considered "integral parts of the Kingdom of the Netherlands".' However Luxembourg had become an independent state in 1839. The provision only applied to Limburg. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 05:28, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I corrected the part about Luxembourg (that was constitutionally tied to the Kingdom of the Netherlands until 1839 only) once again. The status of Luxembourg was established by the first treaty of London (1839) and affirmed by the second treaty of London (1867). Gerard von Hebel (talk) 16:07, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Dutch-Prussian war threat of 1867[edit]

Not mentioned in the article is the Dutch-Prussian war threat of 1867 caused by Bismarck's demands during the Luxembourg Crisis of 1867. During that crisis Bismarck demanded the incorporation of Dutch Limburg into the North German Confederation. The future of Limburg as part of the Netherlands was uncertain until 1867 when the Luxemburg Crisis, including the Limburg issue, was peacefully solved by the Second Treaty of London. The article is incorrect regarding the city of Venlo during the 1830-1839 period. Belgian troops were able to take Venlo in 1830 because a significant part of the Venlo population supported the Belgian revolt. One year later, in 1831, a Dutch army invaded Belgium and started a siege against Venlo, but without succes. The fortifications of Venlo were between 1830-1839 the most northern Belgian strongholds. Except Maasticht, Limburg (thus Venlo too) remained in Belgian hands until Dutch Limburg was created in 1839. The reason why Venlo (with Maasticht) was not a part of the German Confederation was to maintain a population balance by the formal exchange with Belgian Luxembourg having a smaller population than Dutch Limburg. --145.53.192.102 (talk) 16:21, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Flag[edit]

Does anyone have a source (apart from a flag seller that I found) for the red-white flag actually being the flag of the Duchy of Limburg? I know the white-yellow-green flag is incorrect, but I can't find anything about this. Ouroboros777 (talk) 23:48, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the Red-White flag until someone can provide a source, as it was added by an unregistered user. There is a "flag of the Duchy of Limburg" that was made by someone else in 2005 but for some reason was not used, but even there there is no source, not even a description. I realise that, should it be the actual flag, this is removing information, but considering this could very well be the second fake Duchy of Limburg flag that people start using we are better off removing it for now so that we don't pull another Austria-Hungary Ouroboros777 (talk) 00:03, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]