Talk:Dorothy Quincy

Deletion comment

While I have no "reliable sources" to hand on which to base an article, I do not believe that Dorothy Quincy's entry should be deleted. She was not merely the first First Lady of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts (at a time when it was essentially a nation unto itself), but also a witness to the Battle of Lexington, having been a guest, along with her future husband John Hancock and Samuel Adams, at the house of John's aunt Lydia Hancock. See the article at Colonial Hall which appears to be taken directly from "Wives of the Signers: The Women Behind the Declaration of Independence" by Harry Clinton Green and Mary Wolcott Green.

If it is decided that her article should be deleted, then at least there should be an article on the Quincy family, including at least Col. John Quincy after whom the Massachusetts city was named, his granddaughter Elizabeth Quincy, the grandmother of president John Quincy Adams, who was named in her honor, Dorothy and her father Judge Edmond Quincy. The family played an important role in the colony of Massachusetts and its transformation into the Commonwealth.

Commercial venture

Dorothy Quincy is memorialized today in the Dorothy Quincy Suite a theater and ballroom complex in the old John Hancock tower, long a Boston landmark. As the Hancock Hall and Dorothy Quincy Suite are an on-going commercial venture I am uncertain as to the extent, if any, to which it is appropriate to mention them directly. --Brons 11:13, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Good point. There are other living histories and/or portrayals which we might add. The word "today" is meaningless without a date. "long a Boston landmark" should also be deleted or several footnotes added (big grin). --Rcollman (talk) 15:45, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Reference- Wives of the Signers

In addition to Wives of the Signers, Dorothy is also the subject of Dorothy Quincy, wife of John Hancock: With events of her time by Ellen C. D. Q Woodbury, of which I do not have a copy. Her account of the Battle of Lexington comes to us through General William H. Sumner and was published in the New England Historical and Genealogical Register, VIII p. 188, which I do not have to hand. --Brons 18:41, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

That biographical book establishes notability of the subject (see the guideline WP:BIO). I have removed the warning tag and added the book as a reference. (I only found the title of the book in databases, I do not actually have access to it.) To improve the article, further sources shold be added, and sources should be cited in the text. --B. Wolterding 17:22, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I removed the lack of citation banner from the main page. (I personally find that to be an inappropriate place for it. The discussion page is better.) I did not find a sub heading with specifics about the need for it. I have put in a couple more references. The General Sumner's diary has a lengthly passage attributed to Dorothy and has been published in many places, I added another. The genealogical record could come from any number of researchers and individual sources. I refrained from citing the census records of 1790 and 1800. I did not cite Boston Marriages for James Scott, nor 100 orators of Boston that also has some wonderful information about Madam Scott. I found lots of material in google books, now part of the public record. --Rcollman (talk) 15:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)