Talk:Diospyros

Properties

What are the properties of this wood? Density in particular?

Meaning?

I know nothing about much, but it struck me reading about persimmon that what the Greeks called persimmon - "the fruit of the gods" - and the word diospyros might be connected? dios- meaning gods, of course. Any connection? Headbeater (talk) 12:17, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

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Etymology of diospyros

The sources for the etymology of διόσπυρος in this article are quite old, one of them from 1864.

The wiki article on Persimmon purports a different etymology with a citation to actual Greek language scholarship which also might be worth noting :

The word Diospyros comes from the ancient Greek words "dios" (δῐος) and "pyron" (πῡρον). A popular etymology construed this as "divine fruit", or as meaning "wheat of Zeus"[2] or "God's pear" and "Jove's fire". The dio-, as shown by the short vowel 'i', has nothing to do with 'divine' (δῑoς ), dio- being an affix attached to plant names, and in classical Greek the compound referred to "the fruit of the nettle tree".[3]

διόσπυρον in Liddell, Henry George; Scott, Robert (1940) A Greek–English Lexicon, revised and augmented throughout by Jones, Sir Henry Stuart, with the assistance of McKenzie, Roderick. Oxford: Clarendon Press. In the Perseus Digital Library, Tufts University. 97.91.49.203 (talk) 19:19, 27 March 2022 (UTC)