Talk:Die Another Day (song)/GA1

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Khazar2 (talk · contribs) 11:58, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be glad to take this one. Comments to follow shortly--thanks in advance for your work, Khazar2 (talk) 11:58, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Khazar, hope you don't fail this one, lol. —Indian:BIO · ^{[ ChitChat ]} 12:30, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

My pleasure, but I'm sorry to say I am going to have to fail it. Just picking a source at random and checking it (this one), it shows some of the same copyright issues I've seen in your other nominations. Long phrases seem to have been taken from the source word-for-word without putting them in quotation marks or giving another acknowledgement that this has been done. You added the material in September with this edit.

Source: "pop idol Madonna has embarked on a spiritual pilgrimage to Israel to practice her newfound faith in the mystical Jewish Kabbalah."

Article: "In 2004, the singer wanted to embark on a spiritual pilgrimage to Israel to practice her newfound faith in Kabbalah"

Source: "a Jewish custom usually reserved for men"

Article: "a Jewish custom usually reserved for men"

So I'm marking this for copyright cleanup and failing the nomination for now. I realize you're working with good intentions, but you'll need to be much more careful about this in your future work. Having at least three failed GA nominations where this was a factor, you seem to reaching the point where a Contributor copyright investigation would be reasonable, and that would be time consuming and unpleasant for everyone concerned. You simply can't take work verbatim or close to verbatim from other authors; details and suggestions can be found at WP:COPYVIO, WP:PLAGIARISM, and WP:PARAPHRASE.

Let me know if you have any questions. -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:22, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. On a smaller note, the source "Rooksby" still needs a full citation. -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:25, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Khazar, I do feel you are showing a tad bad faith to my edits. Of course I would not be intentionally add verbatim from content when I spend my other time fighting such content addition and vandalism. Yes it might be my mistake and I'm happy to learn from it. And since I would love to learn from you, the sudden unpleasant attitude you gave really de-moralized me. Again, I do apologize for finding those errors and willing to rephrase them completely. —Indian:BIO · ^{[ ChitChat ]} 13:33, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to hear you feel demoralized. If you really feel I'm disrupting Wikipedia to illustrate a point, as you state in your edit summary, or approaching this with an assumption of bad faith, as you state here, you're welcome to appeal to WT:GAN or WP:AN/I, or simply to another experienced reviewer for a second opinion. I'm always happy to have my work doublechecked.

I tried to be explicit about this above, but I'll restate here that I know you're editing with good intentions, just making serious mistakes. I do really appreciate all the hours you've volunteered to improve these articles, and I hope they all get to GA soon. -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:53, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No offence dear. If you read it from my POV, you would understand that it appeared as if someone was saying I'm intentionally doing it, which is untrue. Would you please help me with phrasing it @Khazar:? I will start rewriting the whole article would you want to monitor the progress and check the copyvio? —Indian:BIO · ^{[ ChitChat ]} 13:58, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I won't be able to actively help with rewriting, but can doublecheck sources for copyright concerns at your request. Unfortunately I don't have access to some of the books, which means double-checking those will be difficult--I tried Google Books and Amazon previews for the O'Brien without success. Cheers, -- Khazar2 (talk) 14:28, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thats fine @Khazar2:. You dont need to actively edit it, you can just monitor it. And I can send you the scan of the O'Brien book if you want to. —Indian:BIO · ^{[ ChitChat ]} 14:36, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I've been slow to answer, but that would a big help; would you send it to my Wikipedia e-mail? Cheers, Khazar2 (talk) 19:31, 24 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]